Golden State Warriors Talk

Originally posted by wailers15:

I'd just try and package the pick in a trade. No one in this draft is really going to help us out in the long term

Damn. If only we had a David Robinson/Tim Duncan scenario.

Originally posted by wailers15:

I'd just try and package the pick in a trade. No one in this draft is really going to help us out in the long term

Wiseman???

Originally posted by jimrat:

Originally posted by wailers15:

I'd just try and package the pick in a trade. No one in this draft is really going to help us out in the long term

Wiseman???

This ain't a big mans game anymore... but also do you really think a guy who barely played in college at all will be any much of an impact at the pros? History is against him and his position he plays. But just from the sample that I have seen...I wouldn't touch Wiseman at all.

Originally posted by wailers15:

Originally posted by jimrat:

Originally posted by wailers15:

I'd just try and package the pick in a trade. No one in this draft is really going to help us out in the long term

Wiseman???

This ain't a big mans game anymore... but also do you really think a guy who barely played in college at all will be any much of an impact at the pros? History is against him and his position he plays. But just from the sample that I have seen...I wouldn't touch Wiseman at all.

From what I seen of him, he has all the tools to be a top NBA center, there are still a lot of very good centers that are very hard to deal with in the NBA, I don't feel comfortable having to trot Looney and Chriss at Center having to guard Embid, Jokic, Towns, Jordan, Capela.

Originally posted by jimrat:

Originally posted by wailers15:

Originally posted by jimrat:

Originally posted by wailers15:

I'd just try and package the pick in a trade. No one in this draft is really going to help us out in the long term

Wiseman???

This ain't a big mans game anymore... but also do you really think a guy who barely played in college at all will be any much of an impact at the pros? History is against him and his position he plays. But just from the sample that I have seen...I wouldn't touch Wiseman at all.

From what I seen of him, he has all the tools to be a top NBA center, there are still a lot of very good centers that are very hard to deal with in the NBA, I don't feel comfortable having to trot Looney and Chriss at Center having to guard Embid, Jokic, Towns, Jordan, Capela.

Big man position is making a comeback now and you need good bigs to win. They dont need to be your offense anymore, especially the traditional post up big man, thats dead.

Now they need to be able to defend well and run the floor, or shoot well, or even be a ball handler, that's where the C/PF position will be at going forward.

All in on Edwards. Not sure why anyone would have the opinion that there is nothing in this draft that can help long term.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
All in on Edwards. Not sure why anyone would have the opinion that there is nothing in this draft that can help long term.

If you look at the draft, especially the past 10 years, I haven't looked longer than that, but you will not find one draft class that sucked and didn't produce at least a couple of all star players.

2013 draft is considered a huge bust. Anthony Bennet, Otto Porter, Alex Len, Zeller, all went top 5. But then you also had Gobert and Greek Freak drafted late in the first, and Oladipo.

Worst case, this draft class might have a couple of early round busts, but there will be at least some all stars in there, and of course some solid role players in there.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
All in on Edwards. Not sure why anyone would have the opinion that there is nothing in this draft that can help long term.

If you look at the draft, especially the past 10 years, I haven't looked longer than that, but you will not find one draft class that sucked and didn't produce at least a couple of all star players.

2013 draft is considered a huge bust. Anthony Bennet, Otto Porter, Alex Len, Zeller, all went top 5. But then you also had Gobert and Greek Freak drafted late in the first, and Oladipo.

Worst case, this draft class might have a couple of early round busts, but there will be at least some all stars in there, and of course some solid role players in there.

Right, exactly. To say there is no one in the draft that can help long term is absurd. Like you said, every draft has had players who can be long term help. Every single one.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
All in on Edwards. Not sure why anyone would have the opinion that there is nothing in this draft that can help long term.

If you look at the draft, especially the past 10 years, I haven't looked longer than that, but you will not find one draft class that sucked and didn't produce at least a couple of all star players.

2013 draft is considered a huge bust. Anthony Bennet, Otto Porter, Alex Len, Zeller, all went top 5. But then you also had Gobert and Greek Freak drafted late in the first, and Oladipo.

Worst case, this draft class might have a couple of early round busts, but there will be at least some all stars in there, and of course some solid role players in there.

Right, exactly. To say there is no one in the draft that can help long term is absurd. Like you said, every draft has had players who can be long term help. Every single one.

Yeep

We need a defender with some offensive skills at the Center position - that's why I'm hoping Wiseman is the pick.

Originally posted by mayo49:
We need a defender with some offensive skills at the Center position - that's why I'm hoping Wiseman is the pick.

I think people are vastly underrating how good Chriss can be on our squad.

Originally posted by mayo49:
We need a defender with some offensive skills at the Center position - that's why I'm hoping Wiseman is the pick.

ya, if i'm GS, i'm taking Wiseman.

that way Green can go back to just doing his thing on defense, just like he did when he had Bogut protecting the paint. Green shouldn't be in the paint like he's been. he's at his best when he can just "roam" on defense.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by mayo49:
We need a defender with some offensive skills at the Center position - that's why I'm hoping Wiseman is the pick.

I think people are vastly underrating how good Chriss can be on our squad.

Undersized to guard big centers.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by mayo49:
We need a defender with some offensive skills at the Center position - that's why I'm hoping Wiseman is the pick.

I think people are vastly underrating how good Chriss can be on our squad.

Undersized to guard big centers.

You will never get me to agree that a super athletic 6'9 player with a 7'1 wingspan is too undersized for anything.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by mayo49:
We need a defender with some offensive skills at the Center position - that's why I'm hoping Wiseman is the pick.

I think people are vastly underrating how good Chriss can be on our squad.

Undersized to guard big centers.

You will never get me to agree that a super athletic 6'9 player with a 7'1 wingspan is too undersized for anything.

He's perfect coming off the bench.