***NBA DA BUBBLE OFF-SEASON Thread***

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by SoCold:
I don't watch the nba. Haven't watched a full game since like '06. Just thought the flopping/crying was funny. Bill Lambier would injure every player out there!

How? Throw a glass bottle from a bench?!? Because he won't be on the court in today's NBA.

simple
Laimbeer was tough as nails. 10 years from '82-'92 he only missed 3 games. In today's NBA he'd play the first Q. Injure everyone and foul out.

i'm glad they made a lot of rule changes on defense. pushing someone to get ground is not playing defense. this isn't football where the goal is to get the ball carrier down on the ground.

the only change i would like to see come back, is some form hand checking. offense has become a bit too easy for some of these players. especially for someone who can shoot like Curry, it's impossible to defend them. bringing back hand checking, with like 1-2 sec rule, would be great.

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by Jiks:
Most legit stars would've been just as good back in the day. Harden is really the only one that would be a scrub because getting an index fingers wind wasn't called a foul for 15+ ft's a game. Dude would've been out of the league 4-5 years ago.

Lol, it's insane how many people take Harden for granted. Probably the best one on one scorer in nba history. He would be good as hell in any era

Yep. Agreed. Harden is a freakin stud. He is just is so incredibly unlikable to watch. Doesnt mean he isnt an all world talent. People just need to differentiate between how much they like him and how good he is.

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by Jiks:
Most legit stars would've been just as good back in the day. Harden is really the only one that would be a scrub because getting an index fingers wind wasn't called a foul for 15+ ft's a game. Dude would've been out of the league 4-5 years ago.

Lol, it's insane how many people take Harden for granted. Probably the best one on one scorer in nba history. He would be good as hell in any era

he's the Russel Wilson of the NBA. nobody likes them, but you can't deny their talent.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by Jiks:

Most legit stars would've been just as good back in the day. Harden is really the only one that would be a scrub because getting an index fingers wind wasn't called a foul for 15+ ft's a game. Dude would've been out of the league 4-5 years ago.

Lol, it's insane how many people take Harden for granted. Probably the best one on one scorer in nba history. He would be good as hell in any era

Yep. Agreed. Harden is a freakin stud. He is just is so incredibly unlikable to watch. Doesnt mean he isnt an all world talent. People just need to differentiate between how much they like him and how good he is.

No he's not. Take away his foul shots where is he? He's middle of the pack, borderline all-star. He wouldn't get these calls in the 80s-90s. Today's fouls were considered good hard-nose defense back then. Now you literally can't even put a hand on a guy.

The guy has had some pretty stout teams but hasn't even been in the finals.

Houston will never win a championship with this style of play.

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by Jiks:
Most legit stars would've been just as good back in the day. Harden is really the only one that would be a scrub because getting an index fingers wind wasn't called a foul for 15+ ft's a game. Dude would've been out of the league 4-5 years ago.

Lol, it's insane how many people take Harden for granted. Probably the best one on one scorer in nba history. He would be good as hell in any era

Yep. Agreed. Harden is a freakin stud. He is just is so incredibly unlikable to watch. Doesnt mean he isnt an all world talent. People just need to differentiate between how much they like him and how good he is.

No he's not. Take away his foul shots where is he? He's middle of the pack, borderline all-star. He wouldn't get these calls in the 80s-90s. Today's fouls were considered good hard-nose defense back then. Now you literally can't even put a hand on a guy.

The guy has had some pretty stout teams but hasn't even been in the finals.

...You act like this is all Harden can do is draw fouls lol. He's a great shooter, he's a great passer, he has great size and although he's not MJ as an athelte, he's still a better athlete than 90% of guards during the 80s and 90s.

Harden is just taking advantage of the rules. Go watch him in OKC, watch him when he first came to Rockets. He was a 3 level scorer, and still can be. And at his size, he would be dominating in the 80s. And btw, Harden averages 2 more free throws a game than MJ. The "MJ rules" wasn't just coined yesterday lol.

Originally posted by jcs:
Houston will never win a championship with this style of play.

Houston will never win this lineup. They want to emulate the Warriors, but people forget that they had guys like McGee, Ezelie, Speights, and Bogut for many years. Ya they would go small at the end of games, but Hou plays small the whole game. PJ Tucker can't play 35+ min a game against the other teams best big man. AD is gonna kill this team during this series.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by Jiks:

Most legit stars would've been just as good back in the day. Harden is really the only one that would be a scrub because getting an index fingers wind wasn't called a foul for 15+ ft's a game. Dude would've been out of the league 4-5 years ago.

Lol, it's insane how many people take Harden for granted. Probably the best one on one scorer in nba history. He would be good as hell in any era

Yep. Agreed. Harden is a freakin stud. He is just is so incredibly unlikable to watch. Doesnt mean he isnt an all world talent. People just need to differentiate between how much they like him and how good he is.

I've really enjoyed watching him in the bubble. The superstar that's least pleasing to watch for me is CP3

I am so sick of this style of play for the Rockets. It'd be fine if they just hit the wide effing open 3's but they consistently go cold in 4th quarters and miss wide open 3 after wide open 3. Nothing more frustrating to watch than choke misses over and over again.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by Jiks:

Most legit stars would've been just as good back in the day. Harden is really the only one that would be a scrub because getting an index fingers wind wasn't called a foul for 15+ ft's a game. Dude would've been out of the league 4-5 years ago.

Lol, it's insane how many people take Harden for granted. Probably the best one on one scorer in nba history. He would be good as hell in any era

Yep. Agreed. Harden is a freakin stud. He is just is so incredibly unlikable to watch. Doesnt mean he isnt an all world talent. People just need to differentiate between how much they like him and how good he is.

No he's not. Take away his foul shots where is he? He's middle of the pack, borderline all-star. He wouldn't get these calls in the 80s-90s. Today's fouls were considered good hard-nose defense back then. Now you literally can't even put a hand on a guy.

The guy has had some pretty stout teams but hasn't even been in the finals.

...You act like this is all Harden can do is draw fouls lol. He's a great shooter, he's a great passer, he has great size and although he's not MJ as an athelte, he's still a better athlete than 90% of guards during the 80s and 90s.

Harden is just taking advantage of the rules. Go watch him in OKC, watch him when he first came to Rockets. He was a 3 level scorer, and still can be. And at his size, he would be dominating in the 80s. And btw, Harden averages 2 more free throws a game than MJ. The "MJ rules" wasn't just coined yesterday lol.

It truthfully is... Teams cannot play defense on him so they don't. They simply have no option. When they do try, it's a foul. It's completely unfair to the rest of the league and spits on the great tradition of greatness.

Come Conference finals or a team with equal star talent
he no longer gets carried by NBA refs. Refs can only carry him so far before their hands are tied. Suddenly he's pedestrian as far as greatness.

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by Jiks:
Most legit stars would've been just as good back in the day. Harden is really the only one that would be a scrub because getting an index fingers wind wasn't called a foul for 15+ ft's a game. Dude would've been out of the league 4-5 years ago.

Lol, it's insane how many people take Harden for granted. Probably the best one on one scorer in nba history. He would be good as hell in any era

Yep. Agreed. Harden is a freakin stud. He is just is so incredibly unlikable to watch. Doesnt mean he isnt an all world talent. People just need to differentiate between how much they like him and how good he is.

No he's not. Take away his foul shots where is he? He's middle of the pack, borderline all-star. He wouldn't get these calls in the 80s-90s. Today's fouls were considered good hard-nose defense back then. Now you literally can't even put a hand on a guy.

The guy has had some pretty stout teams but hasn't even been in the finals.

Absolutely insane take, IMO. And I am someone who cant stand watching Harden play.

Chris Paul is amazing. Would love to see OKC knock off HOU.
On a side note, HOU gets in deep s**t when those 3s aren't falling

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by Jiks:

Most legit stars would've been just as good back in the day. Harden is really the only one that would be a scrub because getting an index fingers wind wasn't called a foul for 15+ ft's a game. Dude would've been out of the league 4-5 years ago.

Lol, it's insane how many people take Harden for granted. Probably the best one on one scorer in nba history. He would be good as hell in any era

Yep. Agreed. Harden is a freakin stud. He is just is so incredibly unlikable to watch. Doesnt mean he isnt an all world talent. People just need to differentiate between how much they like him and how good he is.

No he's not. Take away his foul shots where is he? He's middle of the pack, borderline all-star. He wouldn't get these calls in the 80s-90s. Today's fouls were considered good hard-nose defense back then. Now you literally can't even put a hand on a guy.

The guy has had some pretty stout teams but hasn't even been in the finals.

Absolutely insane take, IMO. And I am someone who cant stand watching Harden play.

Harden wouldn't have his step back in the hand check era. So many stars in today's game would be in trouble if hand checking were allowed. The fundamentals needed to run slower paced half court offenses weren't ever taught to most of the modern players. How many guys have good low post footwork anymore?

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by Jiks:

Most legit stars would've been just as good back in the day. Harden is really the only one that would be a scrub because getting an index fingers wind wasn't called a foul for 15+ ft's a game. Dude would've been out of the league 4-5 years ago.

Lol, it's insane how many people take Harden for granted. Probably the best one on one scorer in nba history. He would be good as hell in any era

Yep. Agreed. Harden is a freakin stud. He is just is so incredibly unlikable to watch. Doesnt mean he isnt an all world talent. People just need to differentiate between how much they like him and how good he is.

No he's not. Take away his foul shots where is he? He's middle of the pack, borderline all-star. He wouldn't get these calls in the 80s-90s. Today's fouls were considered good hard-nose defense back then. Now you literally can't even put a hand on a guy.

The guy has had some pretty stout teams but hasn't even been in the finals.

Absolutely insane take, IMO. And I am someone who cant stand watching Harden play.

Harden wouldn't have his step back in the hand check era. So many stars in today's game would be in trouble if hand checking were allowed. The fundamentals needed to run slower paced half court offenses weren't ever taught to most of the modern players. How many guys have good low post footwork anymore?

He finished second in MVP BEFORE he came up with the step back.

Also, explain how a handcheck prevents him from stepping backwards.

Harden is an incredibly talented scorer, but he is going to go down as a guy that can't hit big shot in playoffs. And he couldn't even guard 35 year old 6footer Chris Paul today? Cmon