***NBA DA BUBBLE OFF-SEASON Thread***

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by ninersrule4:

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by 4ML:

You can't reward this pic.twitter.com/XaIP3YN7DG

— pickuphoop (@pickuphoop) August 27, 2020

Agree yet people consider this greatness when Harden does it every game.

Harden does not lean into his defenders.

I'm beginning to think people don't really watch the guy they just follow the hype. They really don't understand his game.

James Harden is tough they say. Break down this play for me. pic.twitter.com/tlS940oXLj

— Mikey P (from 6 ft away) (@Mikeyvp) April 20, 2019

Watch all of this "leaning into defenders".

Harden does not lean into people while shooting jumpers. Your video didn't dispute that. I can also go on YouTube and pull videos of all the stars flopping.

I'm beginning to think you don't watch Harden play.

Jiks, dude, you're still talking about Harden? Why do you dislike him so much... it's been several days lol

Originally posted by jcs:

Holy s**t this makes Lebron look awful and validated my theory. This is his Ali moment and it sounds like he is being selfish about the movement. Rubbing his colleagues the wrong way

James Harden is a gifted scorer

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by 4ML:

You can't reward this pic.twitter.com/XaIP3YN7DG

— pickuphoop (@pickuphoop) August 27, 2020

Agree yet people consider this greatness when Harden does it every game.

Lillard does this every game too yet ppl love him and never call it out but hate on Harden.

Sure he does it but his entire game does not revolve around it like Hardens does(4 less ft per game). Nobody is comparing Lillard to Jordan either like Harden. Realistically they are in the same boat and these two are a much better comparison. Decent players but historically irrelevant in greatness context.

Goodness, man, give up the irrational hate. Dislike his game, fine, but stop pretending all that seperates him and someone like Dame is 4 FTs.

Harden's scoring is historic. There's nothing you can say to change the fact he's scoring at a rate only two others have ever reached for as long as he has.

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by jcs:

Holy s**t this makes Lebron look awful and validated my theory. This is his Ali moment and it sounds like he is being selfish about the movement. Rubbing his colleagues the wrong way

Its very believable because it plays into the negative stereotype of Lebron

At the same time its Stephon A. Hard to believe anything that dude says....If young guys don't respect Lebron, they probably hate Stephon A's guts. Well actually is there anyone that likes Stephon A?

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by jcs:

Holy s**t this makes Lebron look awful and validated my theory. This is his Ali moment and it sounds like he is being selfish about the movement. Rubbing his colleagues the wrong way

Its very believable because it plays into the negative stereotype of Lebron

At the same time its Stephon A. Hard to believe anything that dude says....If young guys don't respect Lebron, they probably hate Stephon A's guts. Well actually is there anyone that likes Stephon A?

It says something that the rest of the NBA didn't vote along with the Lakers and Clippers.

Originally posted by sacniner:

Jiks, dude, you're still talking about Harden? Why do you dislike him so much... it's been several days lol

Because it truly bothers me tbh. I think it's a complete insult to some of the all-time greats and the history of sports in general. The guy literally uses refs and stretches every rule to be great. Sure Jordan and Kobe used refs at times but they also had that IT factor that made them who they are/were. Harden on the other hand is a fluke and it's shows in his inability to will his team to at the very least a finals. There is nothing special about him. He shoot free throws and can hit shots. Steph Curry does this and has rings. Klay Thompson as well. Kyrie. The list is long.

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Jiks, dude, you're still talking about Harden? Why do you dislike him so much... it's been several days lol

Because it truly bothers me tbh. I think it's a complete insult to some of the all-time greats and the history of sports in general. The guy literally uses refs and stretches every rule to be great. Sure Jordan and Kobe used refs at times but they also had that IT factor that made them who they are/were. Harden on the other hand is a fluke and it's shows in his inability to will his team to at the very least a finals. There is nothing special about him. He shoot free throws and can hit shots. Steph Curry does this and has rings. Klay Thompson as well. Kyrie. The list is long.

Stephen Curry won rings with the likes of KD,Clay and Draymond on his team. All star caliber player and MVP caliber players. Kyrie has had Lebron and the benefit of playing in the East. The best player Harden has played with was an aging CP3 and if it wasn't for his hammy Houston probably has a ring. It's really crazy how you just dismiss Harden and all he has accomplished in his career. Houston has made the playoffs every single year he has been there. He has dragged teams on his back over the course of his 8 years there.

He has been named league MVP and realistically should have 1 or 2 more to his name. He's routinely in the top 3 for MVP every year. His advance metrics are thru the rough. Over the last 5 years he's been in the top 3 in win shares, efficiency, And PER. Hating him
is fine but downgrading the player he is and what he has accomplished is ridiculous. He's easily in the hall of fame and he's not done.

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by sacniner:
Jiks, dude, you're still talking about Harden? Why do you dislike him so much... it's been several days lol

Because it truly bothers me tbh. I think it's a complete insult to some of the all-time greats and the history of sports in general. The guy literally uses refs and stretches every rule to be great. Sure Jordan and Kobe used refs at times but they also had that IT factor that made them who they are/were. Harden on the other hand is a fluke and it's shows in his inability to will his team to at the very least a finals. There is nothing special about him. He shoot free throws and can hit shots. Steph Curry does this and has rings. Klay Thompson as well. Kyrie. The list is long.

You keep repeating the same thing, he can shoot and hit free throws. That is special in todays NBAs, especially when you do it at a high level. Also a great passer.

And who knows how you can type these two things together.

There is nothing special about him. He shoots free throws and can hit shots.

Steph Curry does this and has rings.

What does this even mean lol

Originally posted by ninersrule4:

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Jiks, dude, you're still talking about Harden? Why do you dislike him so much... it's been several days lol

Because it truly bothers me tbh. I think it's a complete insult to some of the all-time greats and the history of sports in general. The guy literally uses refs and stretches every rule to be great. Sure Jordan and Kobe used refs at times but they also had that IT factor that made them who they are/were. Harden on the other hand is a fluke and it's shows in his inability to will his team to at the very least a finals. There is nothing special about him. He shoot free throws and can hit shots. Steph Curry does this and has rings. Klay Thompson as well. Kyrie. The list is long.

Stephen Curry won rings with the likes of KD,Clay and Draymond on his team. All star caliber player and MVP caliber players. Kyrie has had Lebron and the benefit of playing in the East. The best player Harden has played with was an aging CP3 and if it wasn't for his hammy Houston probably has a ring. It's really crazy how you just dismiss Harden and all he has accomplished in his career. Houston has made the playoffs every single year he has been there. He has dragged teams on his back over the course of his 8 years there.

He has been named league MVP and realistically should have 1 or 2 more to his name. He's routinely in the top 3 for MVP every year. His advance metrics are thru the rough. Over the last 5 years he's been in the top 3 in win shares, efficiency, And PER. Hating him
is fine but downgrading the player he is and what he has accomplished is ridiculous. He's easily in the hall of fame and he's not done.

He had KD and Westbrook and that team was dismantled because none of those three were championship caliber. Steph(the IT factor) put him in his place with no KD(another fake great). There's a tremendous difference.

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by sacniner:
Jiks, dude, you're still talking about Harden? Why do you dislike him so much... it's been several days lol

Because it truly bothers me tbh. I think it's a complete insult to some of the all-time greats and the history of sports in general. The guy literally uses refs and stretches every rule to be great. Sure Jordan and Kobe used refs at times but they also had that IT factor that made them who they are/were. Harden on the other hand is a fluke and it's shows in his inability to will his team to at the very least a finals. There is nothing special about him. He shoot free throws and can hit shots. Steph Curry does this and has rings. Klay Thompson as well. Kyrie. The list is long.

+1

I lost respect for him during the 19' Western Conference Finals Vs Golden State. Game 1 was the the moment the whole country saw him choose to fish for a foul extending his leg out to catch D.Green instead of trying to score with 10 sec left on a 3 point attempt as his team was down 100-103.

Dude is supremely talented but his gimmicks hurt his legacy.

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by ninersrule4:

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Jiks, dude, you're still talking about Harden? Why do you dislike him so much... it's been several days lol

Because it truly bothers me tbh. I think it's a complete insult to some of the all-time greats and the history of sports in general. The guy literally uses refs and stretches every rule to be great. Sure Jordan and Kobe used refs at times but they also had that IT factor that made them who they are/were. Harden on the other hand is a fluke and it's shows in his inability to will his team to at the very least a finals. There is nothing special about him. He shoot free throws and can hit shots. Steph Curry does this and has rings. Klay Thompson as well. Kyrie. The list is long.

Stephen Curry won rings with the likes of KD,Clay and Draymond on his team. All star caliber player and MVP caliber players. Kyrie has had Lebron and the benefit of playing in the East. The best player Harden has played with was an aging CP3 and if it wasn't for his hammy Houston probably has a ring. It's really crazy how you just dismiss Harden and all he has accomplished in his career. Houston has made the playoffs every single year he has been there. He has dragged teams on his back over the course of his 8 years there.

He has been named league MVP and realistically should have 1 or 2 more to his name. He's routinely in the top 3 for MVP every year. His advance metrics are thru the rough. Over the last 5 years he's been in the top 3 in win shares, efficiency, And PER. Hating him
is fine but downgrading the player he is and what he has accomplished is ridiculous. He's easily in the hall of fame and he's not done.

He had KD and Westbrook and that team was dismantled because none of those three were championship caliber. Steph(the IT factor) put him in his place with no KD(another fake great). There's a tremendous difference.

This conversation is going no place. James Harden is easily top 3 in the league.

When you're on a PL timeout but still need to post hot takes

Originally posted by ninersrule4:

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by ninersrule4:

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Jiks, dude, you're still talking about Harden? Why do you dislike him so much... it's been several days lol

Because it truly bothers me tbh. I think it's a complete insult to some of the all-time greats and the history of sports in general. The guy literally uses refs and stretches every rule to be great. Sure Jordan and Kobe used refs at times but they also had that IT factor that made them who they are/were. Harden on the other hand is a fluke and it's shows in his inability to will his team to at the very least a finals. There is nothing special about him. He shoot free throws and can hit shots. Steph Curry does this and has rings. Klay Thompson as well. Kyrie. The list is long.

Stephen Curry won rings with the likes of KD,Clay and Draymond on his team. All star caliber player and MVP caliber players. Kyrie has had Lebron and the benefit of playing in the East. The best player Harden has played with was an aging CP3 and if it wasn't for his hammy Houston probably has a ring. It's really crazy how you just dismiss Harden and all he has accomplished in his career. Houston has made the playoffs every single year he has been there. He has dragged teams on his back over the course of his 8 years there.

He has been named league MVP and realistically should have 1 or 2 more to his name. He's routinely in the top 3 for MVP every year. His advance metrics are thru the rough. Over the last 5 years he's been in the top 3 in win shares, efficiency, And PER. Hating him
is fine but downgrading the player he is and what he has accomplished is ridiculous. He's easily in the hall of fame and he's not done.

He had KD and Westbrook and that team was dismantled because none of those three were championship caliber. Steph(the IT factor) put him in his place with no KD(another fake great). There's a tremendous difference.

This conversation is going no place. James Harden is easily top 3 in the league.

I just dont get it. I really don't... but you're right that we've ran our course. I'll stop for a little bit at least.