***NBA 2020-21 SEASON THREAD***

Originally posted by JustinMT:
You keep mentioning all these players for trade yet you always emphasize the power of the players. How many of those superstars you've mentioned in the last two pages do you think would have actually suited up for Utah had the Jazz traded for them? Brogdan sure but who else? Harden? No. George? No. Paul? No. Butler? No. Porzingis? No.Etc. all these guys would have held out and the Jazz front office probably knew all that and that's why they didn't waste their time. I wanted them to go after Holiday last year, personally, but I can see why they had to settle Conley. Teams aren't able to bring in whoever they want even if they have the assets to get them anymore because the players now run the league.

George played for OKC...why wouldn't he suit up for SLC?
CP3 played for Clippers...and OKC...and now Phoenix...why wouldn't he suit up for SLC?
Bulter played for Minnesota...why wouldn't he suit up for SLC?
Porzingis is from Latvia - why wouldn't he suit up for Jazz?

I mean - if you can play for Oklahoma and Minnesota - I think you'd be willing to play in Utah. That makes no sense to me.

This is gonna be fun!

Originally posted by 4ML:

Utah already have 2 stars on the team with Gobert and Mitchell. They don't need a 3rd star. They needed to build around them. They blew several draft picks - and Conley's trade and had they hit on them - they'd probably have a real contender right now.

No superstar joined Nuggets or Mavs either - but they've put themselves in position to be real contenders or a very attractive FA destination.

And, can you name me the list of superstars that joined the Lakers after Shaq came to the lakers and before Lebron joined the Lakers. That's 20 years at least. And Lakers had to trade everyone on the roster to get AD and he was only signed for 1 year.

How many superstars have joined the Bulls since MJ left?

This is a ridiculous post. Davis came out and said trade me to LA and you want to compare that to trading away half your pieces to rent a player for a year like Utah would have to. Like there's any comparison there and Lakers made this huge risk. Davis told everyone don't bother I'm going to LA in a year. Then you want me to name you some other superstars that Lakers aquired in the past 20 years. There was Pau Gasol, Ron Artest, Lamar Odom. I seem to remember some pretty good players on those Kobe title teams. I'm sure Utah could get that around a superstar. No problem.

Your point pretty much is well if the were perfect they could overcome it. Like the Lakers were perfect. Lol. They acquired LeBron and he strong armed Davis. The Celtics had far superior assets to aquire Davis. They were willing to give up Tatum if Davis would stay. But strong arming your way works.

Originally posted by 4ML:

Kyrie and KD are those best friends that think it'll be a great idea to be roommates too and quickly learn it was a terrible idea https://t.co/igCTzETymL

— Daman Rangoola (@damanr) December 13, 2020

This is gonna be fun!

ill always love KD but man im gonna enjoy that s**tshow

Originally posted by monsterzero789:

Originally posted by 4ML:

Kyrie and KD are those best friends that think it'll be a great idea to be roommates too and quickly learn it was a terrible idea https://t.co/igCTzETymL

— Daman Rangoola (@damanr) December 13, 2020

This is gonna be fun!

ill always love KD but man im gonna enjoy that s**tshow

Kyrie getting to that Kanye level of nuttiness.

Originally posted by jimrat:

Originally posted by monsterzero789:

Originally posted by 4ML:

Kyrie and KD are those best friends that think it'll be a great idea to be roommates too and quickly learn it was a terrible idea https://t.co/igCTzETymL

— Daman Rangoola (@damanr) December 13, 2020

This is gonna be fun!

ill always love KD but man im gonna enjoy that s**tshow

Kyrie getting to that Kanye level of nuttiness.

Ya hes a weirdo

Originally posted by tjd808185:

This is a ridiculous post. Davis came out and said trade me to LA and you want to compare that to trading away half your pieces to rent a player for a year like Utah would have to. Like there's any comparison there and Lakers made this huge risk. Davis told everyone don't bother I'm going to LA in a year. Then you want me to name you some other superstars that Lakers aquired in the past 20 years. There was Pau Gasol, Ron Artest, Lamar Odom. I seem to remember some pretty good players on those Kobe title teams. I'm sure Utah could get that around a superstar. No problem.

Your point pretty much is well if the were perfect they could overcome it. Like the Lakers were perfect. Lol. They acquired LeBron and he strong armed Davis. The Celtics had far superior assets to aquire Davis. They were willing to give up Tatum if Davis would stay. But strong arming your way works.

Celtics refused to include Tatum in any AD discussion - just like they did with Kawhi discussion. There is no chance in hell that Danny Ainge would have offered a better deal. He loves his draft picks way too much to part with too many of them.

Dwight did the exact same thing and left after a year. AD said all year that will enter FA and make a decision then. If things didn't work out so well on the floor between him and Lebron - he would have considered leaving.

Pelicans had 7 years to build a contender around AD. They never did.

And Artest and Odom are superstars? They were not even perennial all-stars. Pau Gasol never said trade me to lakers - anyone could have traded for him.

Lakers added 0 superstars via FA or a superstar strong-arming his team to trade him to Lakers between Shaq and Lebron FA decisions to join Lakers.

And lastly - Lakers hit on almost every draft pick in the last few years. That's how they were able to trade for AD and some of their bad contracts. Lakers draft picks over the last few years:

Julius Randle
DLo
BI
Lonzo
Hart
Kuzma
Wagner
Thomas Bryant
Zubac
Larry nance
Jordan Clarkson
Caruso (G-league)
THT

All of these guys already have or will get massive 2nd contracts. Many were picked late outside the lottery.

Btw...when Minnesota was in talks to trade Garnett to Celtics - he told them that if you trade for me - I'll never play for Boston. Still did. Credit to Danny Ainge there. Did the trade - won a chip.

Gotta take a chance but that's hard to do when you're playing victim all the time.

I'm so surprised Denver didn't make a move this year. They have two really good young players and all their picks. You can't b***h about small market and then sit and watch your young players develop while your two stars are ready to win.

Utah has 4 years to build a real contender around Donovan Mitchell. If they don't - he'd likely leave. It's not the players fault if FO can't build a great team around a superstar in 7 years.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by jimrat:

Originally posted by monsterzero789:

Originally posted by 4ML:

Kyrie and KD are those best friends that think it'll be a great idea to be roommates too and quickly learn it was a terrible idea https://t.co/igCTzETymL

— Daman Rangoola (@damanr) December 13, 2020

This is gonna be fun!

ill always love KD but man im gonna enjoy that s**tshow

Kyrie getting to that Kanye level of nuttiness.

Ya hes a weirdo

KD gonna be telling himself multiple times I left GS just because my feelings got hurt only to play with a weirdo and in a chaotic system.

This is pretty cool imho

Excited to see KD and Kyrie combo. Should really be fun.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

This is a ridiculous post. Davis came out and said trade me to LA and you want to compare that to trading away half your pieces to rent a player for a year like Utah would have to. Like there's any comparison there and Lakers made this huge risk. Davis told everyone don't bother I'm going to LA in a year. Then you want me to name you some other superstars that Lakers aquired in the past 20 years. There was Pau Gasol, Ron Artest, Lamar Odom. I seem to remember some pretty good players on those Kobe title teams. I'm sure Utah could get that around a superstar. No problem.

Your point pretty much is well if the were perfect they could overcome it. Like the Lakers were perfect. Lol. They acquired LeBron and he strong armed Davis. The Celtics had far superior assets to aquire Davis. They were willing to give up Tatum if Davis would stay. But strong arming your way works.

Tell me more about these superstars Artest and Odom. Is that what we're calling them now? lol