2024 San Francisco Giants Season Thread

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:

Originally posted by DeepNinerValue:
1. Grandson of The Wind, CF
2. Tyler Fitz 2B
3. Ramos LF
4. Chapman 3B
6. Oaxaca League Legend, DH
7. Ha Seong Kim, SS
8. ??? RF
9. Patrick Bailey, C

We are so f**ked

lmao.

They should go after Soto and Tucker. And Adames and Kim. They need to improve the lineup and they need a star. You can see it in the empty seats.

Hitting and pitching is a must. You can't win with just speed, pitching defense. They need to replace Snell unless he wants to come back on a longer term contract.

our 3 championships say otherwise. 2) But I agree getting quality FA hitters has always been our issue as a franchise.

I think you forget the hitters that produced on that team. Also, show me the WS winning teams in the last decade without star hitters. You can include who they played if you want also. Pitching is a huge plus going into the playoffs, but you need hitting. And anyone who thinks this giants team has the pitching of our WS winning teams is nuts.

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:

Originally posted by DeepNinerValue:
1. Grandson of The Wind, CF
2. Tyler Fitz 2B
3. Ramos LF
4. Chapman 3B
6. Oaxaca League Legend, DH
7. Ha Seong Kim, SS
8. ??? RF
9. Patrick Bailey, C

We are so f**ked

lmao.

They should go after Soto and Tucker. And Adames and Kim. They need to improve the lineup and they need a star. You can see it in the empty seats.

Hitting and pitching is a must. You can't win with just speed, pitching defense. They need to replace Snell unless he wants to come back on a longer term contract.

our 3 championships say otherwise. 2) But I agree getting quality FA hitters has always been our issue as a franchise.

Nah, they really dont. We had very timely hitting and we had at least 3-4 players on each of those teams that would be the best hitter on our current team.

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
our 3 championships say otherwise. 2) But I agree getting quality FA hitters has always been our issue as a franchise.

the game seems so much different now compared to those teams.

I think if anything you need quality hitters and strong bullpen now.

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
our 3 championships say otherwise. 2) But I agree getting quality FA hitters has always been our issue as a franchise.

Please, please don't ever compare out 3 championships to 2024. That's like comparing apples and oranges. Absolutely different landscape and circumstances. What had transpired back than does not come close to what it is now.

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
I think you forget the hitters that produced on that team. Also, show me the WS winning teams in the last decade without star hitters. You can include who they played if you want also. Pitching is a huge plus going into the playoffs, but you need hitting. And anyone who thinks this giants team has the pitching of our WS winning teams is nuts.

More important besides who produced and pitched back then, is NL West landscape. Other than CO, not even in the same stratosphere.

Update.

Originally posted by tl57:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
our 3 championships say otherwise. 2) But I agree getting quality FA hitters has always been our issue as a franchise.

Please, please don't ever compare out 3 championships to 2024. That's like comparing apples and oranges. Absolutely different landscape and circumstances. What had transpired back than does not come close to what it is now.

Facts don't change man, hate it all you want.

Originally posted by tl57:
Please, please don't ever compare out 3 championships to 2024. That's like comparing apples and oranges. Absolutely different landscape and circumstances. What had transpired back than does not come close to what it is now.

odd thing to say, particularly when we tapped the legend from that era to lead the current iteration.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
odd thing to say, particularly when we tapped the legend from that era to lead the current iteration.

It is not about the players but the division. 2010-2012 the Giants were practically guaranteed the division coming to spring training. 2011 was the year Posey got hurt. Allowing Sabean who couldn't field both pitching and offense on the mandated budget, to concentrate on one side of equation, what's winning the playoff games: pitching and defense. Once the Dodgers were relieved from McCord and sold to the real ownership group, I have said the Giants will not see the division for the long, long time (2021 being a miracle aberration). They've caught 2014 to get in as the wild card and used the same formula in the playoffs one last time as before to win one more. Tell me other than Posey, who were the hitters on those championship teams. Rejects, has beens and bunch of guys picked up from the couches before the season.

Originally posted by tl57:
It is not about the players but the division. 2010-2012 the Giants were practically guaranteed the division coming to spring training. 2011 was the year Posey got hurt. Allowing Sabean who couldn't field both pitching and offense on the mandated budget, to concentrate on one side of equation, what's winning the playoff games: pitching and defense. Once the Dodgers were relieved from McCord and sold to the real ownership group, I have said the Giants will not see the division for the long, long time (2021 being a miracle aberration). They've caught 2014 to get in as the wild card and used the same formula in the playoffs one last time as before to win one more. Tell me other than Posey, who were the hitters on those championship teams. Rejects, has beens and bunch of guys picked up from the couches before the season.

It also didn't hurt to pick up 3 pitching studs coming up the same time on the rookie deals.
How is all of that can be compared to now when Dodgers and Padres buying all-star teams, AZ is good, and the Giants can only seat and watch.

dodgers to meet with Juan Soto this week.

lmao

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
dodgers to meet with Juan Soto this week.

lmao

i hope they do sign him. that way we can have zero expectations going into the season and save us from future disappointment.

Originally posted by DeepNinerValue:
i hope they do sign him. that way we can have zero expectations going into the season and save us from future disappointment.

I do too, but for a different reason. I don't have any expectations anyway, at least not until I see anything warranted to have some. But them buying Soto will only reiterate and strengthen the Dodgers hores selling themselves for their titles and cheapening them. And maybe, hopefully force the MLB to institute hard salary cap.

Originally posted by tl57:
I do too, but for a different reason. I don't have any expectations anyway, at least not until I see anything warranted to have some. But them buying Soto will only reiterate and strengthen the Dodgers hores selling themselves for their titles and cheapening them. And maybe, hopefully force the MLB to institute hard salary cap.

I can see that. But I can also see that not being a big deal down the road.

Does anyone cheapen the yankees titles when they won the world series with no real playoffs? No.

Originally posted by tl57:

Originally posted by DeepNinerValue:
i hope they do sign him. that way we can have zero expectations going into the season and save us from future disappointment.

I do too, but for a different reason. I don't have any expectations anyway, at least not until I see anything warranted to have some. But them buying Soto will only reiterate and strengthen the Dodgers hores selling themselves for their titles and cheapening them. And maybe, hopefully force the MLB to institute hard salary cap.

The MLB needs a salary floor. That is the issue, not there being no salary cap.