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2024 San Francisco Giants Season Thread

  • tl57
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
There are some billionaires that view a sports franchise as an investment with the goal of making more money. Others just view it as a toy. Its an ego trip for them to be around athletes and build a winner. Eddie D just wanted to win. Same with the current Warriors owners. I'm not sure that's the case with the Giants owners.

You hit on something here.
First, I want to make the correction. They do want to win, otherwise they could have pocketed much more money. They are spenders. We have to ask to what degree and where the restriction lines are. You made a good reference to Eddie D and the Warriors owners. Who are they and who the Giants owners are. That is why I keep referring to the ownership structure. Giants have I think 31 or 32 pieces of ownership pie. Half if not more of that group on the back end are pure investors, as you pointed out. I am familiar with several "small" investors (if you want to term them small compared to others.) Some of the investors in that group are behemoths like KNBR, which in turn is owned and under umbrella of Cumulus Media Partners. You think Cumulus Media Partners give a hoot about Giants baseball and will be happy about KNBR losing money or not making profits on its investment, as long as the Giants win championships. Sure, the Dodgers exorbitant revenue stream helps to provide much larger profits, but those profits go to single ownership conglomerate. Just like Lacob whose ego wanted to parade his dream team in front of the world at the expense of part of his profit, the Dodgers ownership does the same. They in turn are shrewd businessmen and know their brand is on the level of high entertainment, watched by millions around the world. And that justifies the billions in media contract they get. What goes around comes around. How many times have we watched the Giants the last few years and figuratively fell asleep.
Originally posted by SFrush:
Burnes and Adames are not happening. They're slashing payroll.

that was a rumor, not confirmed yet. We will need to see how this offseason goes. They have been top 7 in overall money spent since 2020.
Dodgers have deferred over $1b lmao
And also b***h Farhan exploring a role back in LA
Originally posted by DeepNinerValue:
Dodgers have deferred over $1b lmao
Honestly I dont even care anymore. I hope they sign Soto now just to make it more of a joke.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by DeepNinerValue:
Dodgers have deferred over $1b lmao
Honestly I dont even care anymore. I hope they sign Soto now just to make it more of a joke.

Honestly it has to become an absolute joke for MLB to think about changing it. So I agree. I hope the sign everyone and win 150 games.
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by DeepNinerValue:
Dodgers have deferred over $1b lmao
Honestly I dont even care anymore. I hope they sign Soto now just to make it more of a joke.

Honestly it has to become an absolute joke for MLB to think about changing it. So I agree. I hope the sign everyone and win 150 games.

MLB isn't changing anything. MLB loves it. MLB wants LAD and NYY over and over. gotta win on the field. like moneyball. if we think like LAD we will lose to them out on the field. we have to have a different approach. i'd go overboard on pitching. they can't corner the market they already have a lot of pitching. also a lot of these deals with change over time. it's like Stanton, he's making bank and near 0 war. that's how a lot of these rich deals will age. let them make their moves, we will make ours. we were never a spend out the wazoo, and we won 3 rings. we earned em the real way, we didn't buy them.
Chapman says he will play SS for a bit if it means we can get Kim.
  • tl57
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I know I am a big pessimist when it comes to the Giants, but I'll try to play optimist here.
If the Giants actually sign Burns and Adames, Ray will find his form close to his Cy Yong year, and no injuries, I'll put the money on the Giants to hopefully be strong contender for the WC.
Assuming Dodgers win NL West and one of Phillies or the Mets (depending on who they'll get) will win the NL East and one of Brewers, Cubs or Cardinals will win the NL Central, none of the remaining teams other than Mets / Phillies looser would scare me much for the remaining two WC spots.
Now for the "very easy" part, signing Burns AND Adames. Obviously, it makes me a huge optimist.
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The Giants could have easily sign both Burns and Adames by simply replacing lost salaries. Burns would probably cost around 5 yrs/ 200M and Adames -6 years / 150M That is 65M a year. Snell, Conforto and Soler were paid 62M last year. They also lost a bunch of small fish like Estrada and a couple of relievers.
The problem is they are planning to reduce the payroll with largely lost players' salaries. My question is why they are doing it, if the number one goal was to seriously compete, instead of actually strengthening the team to compete. Notice what happened when the Mets were taken over by Lacob clone. It hadn't worked yet but give him time. Mets get both Soto and Burns and resign Alonso, watch out.
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the strike outs are a concern though, he did steal 20 bases this past year
[ Edited by FaTaL on Dec 7, 2024 at 2:25 PM ]
Go get Burnes now!!
Nice! What a move
Originally posted by FaTaL:
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the strike outs are a concern though, he did steal 20 bases this past year

Posey!

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Could be Matt Chapman 2.0 which would be a good signing, but let's not pretend this isnt an a massive overpay for a very good player, but not a superstar by any means

that being said better to make a move and do something then sit on your hands with this f**king roster
[ Edited by DeepNinerValue on Dec 7, 2024 at 2:37 PM ]
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