2025 San Francisco Giants Season Thread

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
There is a lot of backlash towards fans complaining about the dodgers. The most typical response is don't blame the dodgers, blame the other cheap owners who don't spend. And to establish a spending floor cap. While I am for that, it does not solve the dodgers. You can't knock a team if they got ridicously outbid. Also, if you are a player and the dodgers offer you a s**t ton of money knowing you are going to win, and another team offers you a s**t ton, you likely choose the dodgers. Money plus winning is better than just money. They have created an environment where the only chance a team has is to offer way over market value on a player which will likely f**k that team in the future. Its a bad spot to be in.

Agreed, but a LOT more money will make any player think. Would Ohtani have come here if we offered him say $25m a season more than he signed for? Maybe.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Agreed, but a LOT more money will make any player think. Would Ohtani have come here if we offered him say $25m a season more than he signed for? Maybe.

Obviously money wasn't his motivation if he agreed to defer almost all of it far into the future. He wanted to win and be in LA. We weren't going to get him.

Originally posted by DeepNinerValue:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i don't know if the deferrals make a lot of sense unless you are signing guys like they are signing guys. what's the benefit of kicking some flores dollars down the road?

deferred money, less counting toward current year payroll, less money going to tax vs going to actual players on the active roster

why didn't we defer money on the Adames deal?

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
why didn't we defer money on the Adames deal?

defer the money to do what exactly?

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Agreed, but a LOT more money will make any player think. Would Ohtani have come here if we offered him say $25m a season more than he signed for? Maybe.

Obviously money wasn't his motivation if he agreed to defer almost all of it far into the future. He wanted to win and be in LA. We weren't going to get him.

There wasnt a single team that reportedly offered more than the Dodgers did. You can say that he just wanted to win, but no one gave him an offer that really made him think.

I live and work in the Bay Area. I like it here. I love the team that I work with. My family is here. But if a company in Arizona offered me substantially more than I make now, even if the company isnt as good as my current one, I would absolutely consider it. Money talks.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Agreed, but a LOT more money will make any player think. Would Ohtani have come here if we offered him say $25m a season more than he signed for? Maybe.

Obviously money wasn't his motivation if he agreed to defer almost all of it far into the future. He wanted to win and be in LA. We weren't going to get him.

There wasnt a single team that reportedly offered more than the Dodgers did. You can say that he just wanted to win, but no one gave him an offer that really made him think.

I live and work in the Bay Area. I like it here. I love the team that I work with. My family is here. But if a company in Arizona offered me substantially more than I make now, even if the company isnt as good as my current one, I would absolutely consider it. Money talks.

What would be substntially more when you're making millions. $1 mil per yer? $5 mil per year? $700 mil over 10 years is $70 mil per year so an extra $5 mil per year isn't going to make a big differenc. Half goes to taxes anyway.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Agreed, but a LOT more money will make any player think. Would Ohtani have come here if we offered him say $25m a season more than he signed for? Maybe.

Obviously money wasn't his motivation if he agreed to defer almost all of it far into the future. He wanted to win and be in LA. We weren't going to get him.

There wasnt a single team that reportedly offered more than the Dodgers did. You can say that he just wanted to win, but no one gave him an offer that really made him think.

I live and work in the Bay Area. I like it here. I love the team that I work with. My family is here. But if a company in Arizona offered me substantially more than I make now, even if the company isnt as good as my current one, I would absolutely consider it. Money talks.

Come on Steve. Unless you are making millions per yr that is a bad comparison. Ohtani's actions to take almost all the money in deferred payments shows he wasnt all about the money. He lives in LA and had a chance to compete for titles every single year with the Dodgers. It was the best of all worlds for the guy... to win and be filthy rich. And no team was going to offer him a BILLION dollars which is likely what it would have taken for him to consider for a second.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Agreed, but a LOT more money will make any player think. Would Ohtani have come here if we offered him say $25m a season more than he signed for? Maybe.

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Obviously money wasn't his motivation if he agreed to defer almost all of it far into the future. He wanted to win and be in LA. We weren't going to get him.

There wasnt a single team that reportedly offered more than the Dodgers did. You can say that he just wanted to win, but no one gave him an offer that really made him think.

I live and work in the Bay Area. I like it here. I love the team that I work with. My family is here. But if a company in Arizona offered me substantially more than I make now, even if the company isnt as good as my current one, I would absolutely consider it. Money talks.

Come on Steve. Unless you are making millions per yr that is a bad comparison. Ohtani's actions to take almost all the money in deferred payments shows he wasnt all about the money. He lives in LA and had a chance to compete for titles every single year with the Dodgers. It was the best of all worlds for the guy... to win and be filthy rich. And no team was going to offer him a BILLION dollars which is likely what it would have taken for him to consider for a second.

Would have been worth it!!!

i still think we are a quality bat and a couple quality arms away from looking decent on paper

Spent all that money for 4th place.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Spent all that money for 4th place.

you look at us at #3 and you think to yourself what the heck did we even get for that price

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Spent all that money for 4th place.

you look at us at #3 and you think to yourself what the heck did we even get for that price

Look at the gap between 3rd and 2nd place. You have the Dodgers spending $1.5 billion and Miami spending $5 million. Half the teams spending less than $100 million. That means the Dodgers spent more than the bottom 15 teams combined. The league needs to fix this nonsense.

j lamb acquired

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
j lamb acquired

Shopping at the dollar store again. Dude spent all last year in the Pirates AAA team and hit 7 HRs in 98 games.

He is LH and the G's are hoping he snaps back to form from 7 years ago. Meh

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Shopping at the dollar store again. Dude spent all last year in the Pirates AAA team and hit 7 HRs in 98 games.

He is LH and the G's are hoping he snaps back to form from 7 years ago. Meh

First of all, where did that Giants payroll of $429M came from? Giants 2024 payroll was around $209M. It stands at $184M for 40 players currently on the roster. $25M reduction just as they planned.
Secondly, what did Baer said when asked about the Dodgers? Yeh, we don't look at the Dodgers. We know what that means, how can he acknowledge the Dodgers millennials ahead and he is "preaching" MEASURED APPROACH. We also know what his "preaching" means, hence the "dollar store" the rest of the way, as I had predicted. And as I predict, Posey may be a much better President than Zaidi as the salesman, mover and shaker and has better recognition around the league. But as long as he is under the ownership financial jackboot, the best he'll do is incrementally improve the club, pray that everything on the field (signings, batting, D, pitching) turn the best way possible and hope to laboriously sneak into the playoffs somehow (big IF).