2024 San Francisco Giants Season Thread

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
There is a lot of backlash towards fans complaining about the dodgers. The most typical response is don't blame the dodgers, blame the other cheap owners who don't spend. And to establish a spending floor cap. While I am for that, it does not solve the dodgers. You can't knock a team if they got ridicously outbid. Also, if you are a player and the dodgers offer you a s**t ton of money knowing you are going to win, and another team offers you a s**t ton, you likely choose the dodgers. Money plus winning is better than just money. They have created an environment where the only chance a team has is to offer way over market value on a player which will likely f**k that team in the future. Its a bad spot to be in.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Agreed, but a LOT more money will make any player think. Would Ohtani have come here if we offered him say $25m a season more than he signed for? Maybe.

Originally posted by DeepNinerValue:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i don't know if the deferrals make a lot of sense unless you are signing guys like they are signing guys. what's the benefit of kicking some flores dollars down the road?

deferred money, less counting toward current year payroll, less money going to tax vs going to actual players on the active roster

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
why didn't we defer money on the Adames deal?

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Agreed, but a LOT more money will make any player think. Would Ohtani have come here if we offered him say $25m a season more than he signed for? Maybe.

Obviously money wasn't his motivation if he agreed to defer almost all of it far into the future. He wanted to win and be in LA. We weren't going to get him.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Agreed, but a LOT more money will make any player think. Would Ohtani have come here if we offered him say $25m a season more than he signed for? Maybe.

Obviously money wasn't his motivation if he agreed to defer almost all of it far into the future. He wanted to win and be in LA. We weren't going to get him.

There wasnt a single team that reportedly offered more than the Dodgers did. You can say that he just wanted to win, but no one gave him an offer that really made him think.

I live and work in the Bay Area. I like it here. I love the team that I work with. My family is here. But if a company in Arizona offered me substantially more than I make now, even if the company isnt as good as my current one, I would absolutely consider it. Money talks.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Agreed, but a LOT more money will make any player think. Would Ohtani have come here if we offered him say $25m a season more than he signed for? Maybe.

Obviously money wasn't his motivation if he agreed to defer almost all of it far into the future. He wanted to win and be in LA. We weren't going to get him.

There wasnt a single team that reportedly offered more than the Dodgers did. You can say that he just wanted to win, but no one gave him an offer that really made him think.

I live and work in the Bay Area. I like it here. I love the team that I work with. My family is here. But if a company in Arizona offered me substantially more than I make now, even if the company isnt as good as my current one, I would absolutely consider it. Money talks.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Agreed, but a LOT more money will make any player think. Would Ohtani have come here if we offered him say $25m a season more than he signed for? Maybe.

Obviously money wasn't his motivation if he agreed to defer almost all of it far into the future. He wanted to win and be in LA. We weren't going to get him.

There wasnt a single team that reportedly offered more than the Dodgers did. You can say that he just wanted to win, but no one gave him an offer that really made him think.

I live and work in the Bay Area. I like it here. I love the team that I work with. My family is here. But if a company in Arizona offered me substantially more than I make now, even if the company isnt as good as my current one, I would absolutely consider it. Money talks.

Come on Steve. Unless you are making millions per yr that is a bad comparison. Ohtani's actions to take almost all the money in deferred payments shows he wasnt all about the money. He lives in LA and had a chance to compete for titles every single year with the Dodgers. It was the best of all worlds for the guy... to win and be filthy rich. And no team was going to offer him a BILLION dollars which is likely what it would have taken for him to consider for a second.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Spent all that money for 4th place.