2024 San Francisco Giants Season Thread

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by bayarealuv:
damn braves lost? wtf

You know the Braves choke job is inevitable

Tony with the win

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Honestly, if I was Bryant, I wouldnt be good with not having a position either. If I am a player with his resume, I would rather have a position with one backup spot, then have to show up to the stadium every day wondering which of the 5 possible positions I am assigned to play that day.

To expand on this, I am also not sure its the best way to manage a team. Look at what just happened in the NLCS. Lux dropped a fly ball because he is playing out of position. I'm ok with platoons if you need to do it, but I am not ok with a star not having a position. I doubt Bryant finds it ideal either.

Lux has played exclusively in the infield mainly at 2nd and doesn't have nowhere near the experience in the outfield and they only switched positions for him obviously because they have Seager and Turner but they want his bat in the lineup. He's most likely going back to 2nd with Turner going to SS next year. Bryant has played multiple positions from his early days as a Cub. 2 completely different circumstances.

Yes, only because two main positions qualifies as multiple. We played him in 5 different positions. Five. I cant speak for Bryant himself but most players like to get in a rhythm at one main position with secondary one.

I know the Lux circumstances are different.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Yes, only because two main positions qualifies as multiple. We played him in 5 different positions. Five. I cant speak for Bryant himself but most players like to get in a rhythm at one main position with secondary one.

I know the Lux circumstances are different.

Bryant told Farhan first thing that he was willing to play anywhere to help the team, so it wasn't like he was secretly grumbling that he kept getting moved. He said he prides himself on being able to do it. I know he probably prefers to settle somewhere, but his defense at 3B opened up the need to have to play so much OF.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
What are you talking about saying that he didnt have his fastball. Because he hit Justin Turner? LOL He was throwing 100+. I think you are in the vast minority 99.

Im not talking about velocity, im talking about control. He he didn't have command of that fastball, so throwing it was going to be risky. I get mixing speeds and locations, but if a pitcher knows he doesn't trust one of his pitches in that moment, he's going to try to get outs with whats working instead.

With the combination of his slider being his most reliable pitch that night, and the need for a double play in that situation, it's understandable why they might have thought the best course of action was to ride the pitch that was working and keep it down to induce a DP.

There are so many factors in play that we have no way of knowing the details. Its just too casually dismissed as Posey being a bonehead.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by 4ML:
Hard pass on Bryant. If you're gonna splurge - get a young player who is in his prime and improving. I'll again say go hardddd after Carlos Correa. Yes - he's SS and we have Craw but Craw is 35 and Correa can play at 3B. Hopefully in 2 years - we have our top prospect graduating to majors at SS and take over Craw.

With Belt, Craw, Correa, and combo of Wilmar/Salano at 2B will give us a pretty damn good infield.

There isn't a lot in FA when it comes to OFs - hopefully Romos comes in and takes a spot.

Bring back Gausman and we need to upgrade at least 1 starter. Gotta find someone who can do that in FA.

You are assuming that Correa would even be open to a position change. Why would a guy as young as he is move from SS when you know darn well that there will be plenty of suitors who want him there. He is going to get a huge contract and play SS for some team next year.

Then I'd ask Craw to move to 3B. Also - I have read some in the Giants organization believe Luciano can play the 3B too and may be better suited for that.

I am of the opinion that if you can land a star SS who is entering his prime - you do it. Luciano, Correa, and Ramos can be the building blocks for this offense over the next 10 years. With Posey, Belt, Crawford already on the roster - Giants can compete for World Series over the next year or two.

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by 4ML:
Hard pass on Bryant. If you're gonna splurge - get a young player who is in his prime and improving. I'll again say go hardddd after Carlos Correa. Yes - he's SS and we have Craw but Craw is 35 and Correa can play at 3B. Hopefully in 2 years - we have our top prospect graduating to majors at SS and take over Craw.

With Belt, Craw, Correa, and combo of Wilmar/Salano at 2B will give us a pretty damn good infield.

There isn't a lot in FA when it comes to OFs - hopefully Romos comes in and takes a spot.

Bring back Gausman and we need to upgrade at least 1 starter. Gotta find someone who can do that in FA.

You are assuming that Correa would even be open to a position change. Why would a guy as young as he is move from SS when you know darn well that there will be plenty of suitors who want him there. He is going to get a huge contract and play SS for some team next year.

Then I'd ask Craw to move to 3B. Also - I have read some in the Giants organization believe Luciano can play the 3B too and may be better suited for that.

I am of the opinion that if you can land a star SS who is entering his prime - you do it. Luciano, Correa, and Ramos can be the building blocks for this offense over the next 10 years. With Posey, Belt, Crawford already on the roster - Giants can compete for World Series over the next year or two.

Crawford isnt moving to 3rd base when he still is playing Gold Glove defense. He deserves to play SS for this team for the next 2 years. When his time is up Luciano will be ready to take over hopefully. I seriously doubt Correa is going to move either. The bottom line is its not a great fit and Luciano will most likely make HUGE money and get to stay at his natural position.

I think the Giants are going to spend money on pitching including keeping Gausman, Wood, and maybe Disco.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
What are you talking about saying that he didnt have his fastball. Because he hit Justin Turner? LOL He was throwing 100+. I think you are in the vast minority 99.

Im not talking about velocity, im talking about control. He he didn't have command of that fastball, so throwing it was going to be risky. I get mixing speeds and locations, but if a pitcher knows he doesn't trust one of his pitches in that moment, he's going to try to get outs with whats working instead.

With the combination of his slider being his most reliable pitch that night, and the need for a double play in that situation, it's understandable why they might have thought the best course of action was to ride the pitch that was working and keep it down to induce a DP.

There are so many factors in play that we have no way of knowing the details. Its just too casually dismissed as Posey being a bonehead.

He didnt have control of his fastball because he hit Turner with one pitch? You know what is WAY riskier? Having a kid that can throw 102 throw 4 straight sliders to a guy who has struggled hitting high heat and showing him the same pitch over and over. And anyone knows that a slider that just rolls over the middle of the plate is far easier to hit than a triple digit fastball no matter the location. Plus, Doval had a pitch to waste. He could have thrown the fastball up and out of the zone and make the next slider that much more effective.

You are alone on an island. I dont know of anyone who agrees with you that throwing all those sliders was a good idea. Sadly, that proved out.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
He didnt have control of his fastball because he hit Turner with one pitch? You know what is WAY riskier? Having a kid that can throw 102 throw 4 straight sliders to a guy who has struggled hitting high heat and showing him the same pitch over and over. And anyone knows that a slider that just rolls over the middle of the plate is far easier to hit than a triple digit fastball no matter the location. Plus, Doval had a pitch to waste. He could have thrown the fastball up and out of the zone and make the next slider that much more effective.

You are alone on an island. I dont know of anyone who agrees with you that throwing all those sliders was a good idea. Sadly, that proved out.

When did I say it was a good idea? I said you have no idea whether Buster thought it was a good idea, or if they did so out of necessity. Like I said, Posey and Bum lived up in the zone in the postseason. He's very aware of how to call a game in pressure packed moments, so I'm not going to assume he just called all sliders because he had a brain fart.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
He didnt have control of his fastball because he hit Turner with one pitch? You know what is WAY riskier? Having a kid that can throw 102 throw 4 straight sliders to a guy who has struggled hitting high heat and showing him the same pitch over and over. And anyone knows that a slider that just rolls over the middle of the plate is far easier to hit than a triple digit fastball no matter the location. Plus, Doval had a pitch to waste. He could have thrown the fastball up and out of the zone and make the next slider that much more effective.

You are alone on an island. I dont know of anyone who agrees with you that throwing all those sliders was a good idea. Sadly, that proved out.

When did I say it was a good idea? I said you have no idea whether Buster thought it was a good idea, or if they did so out of necessity. Like I said, Posey and Bum lived up in the zone in the postseason. He's very aware of how to call a game in pressure packed moments, so I'm not going to assume he just called all sliders because he had a brain fart.

You certainly keep defending it like it was a good idea. You are also saying things like he didnt have command over his fastball simply because he lost one pitch and hit Turner. The bottom line is this... it was a bad mistake and I believe it cost the team. I also find it hard to imagine that anyone other than Posey made those pitch selections. You can disagree all you want but nothing will convince me otherwise.

seeing the Braves get these seemingly easy hits just makes me mad at our offense.

Originally posted by boast:
seeing the Braves get these seemingly easy hits just makes me mad at our offense.

I was just thinking the same, Braves probably would've hammered us if we got by LA with our cold ass bats. Their pitching isn't bad either and their lineup is just as dangerous as LA's

I don't think there's no way in hell we're going after Correa since he has Yanks or Mets all over him but he did say that he's willing to move to 3rd. Correa is most likely getting something near 300 and that's not us. Do like him as a player tho and his age.

Atta boy Tony!!!!

Should have traded for Rosario instead of Bryant. lol

Originally posted by Garce:
Atta boy Tony!!!!

He got our back