2024 San Francisco Giants Season Thread

Atlanta's GM saved the season for the Braves:

Eddie Rosario and Cash for Pablo Sandoval LOL
Adam Duvall for some catcher named Alex Jackson whose career major league average is .070

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Should have traded for Rosario instead of Bryant. lol

lol and they got Rosario for Pablo.

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
I don't think there's no way in hell we're going after Correa since he has Yanks or Mets all over him but he did say that he's willing to move to 3rd. Correa is most likely getting something near 300 and that's not us. Do like him as a player tho and his age.

Good find. I hadn't seen that. In my experience - SS are willing to move to 3B if the team needs them to - it isn't that big of a deal. In the end - Carlos Correa will decide where he wants to go. If he thinks Giants will be a good fit - I think (or at least I hope) Zaidi will fork the money to get him.

Btw...on Luciano - this is from a quick search:

"In addition to his offensive promise, Luciano also offers plus arm strength, a high baseball IQ and good actions at shortstop. There's still some question as to whether he can remain at short because he has fringy speed and could lose a step as he gets more physical, but the worst-case scenario is that he shifts to third base or right field. He has the tools to be a solid defender at either spot and his bat makes him a potential superstar anywhere he plays."

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All I am saying is - talent like Correa who are entering their prime are not available every year in FA. At least you go at him. It will be tough to outbid Yankees but he may prefer the West Coast over East Coast. Who knows? I think it will be money well spent on a player like him. Our books are going to be clean after next season. We can go and splurge in the FA. Of course add pitching - but adding a bat like Correa to this lineup will be such a massive boost.

Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
I don't think there's no way in hell we're going after Correa since he has Yanks or Mets all over him but he did say that he's willing to move to 3rd. Correa is most likely getting something near 300 and that's not us. Do like him as a player tho and his age.


I would give it less than 1% chance. In fact about 0.000000000000000000000000001 %. Tell me, how many great young shortstops under the age of 30 have moved over to 3B when changing teams in free agency? I can think of one..... Manny Machado and that is because the Padres went brain dead and offered him 300 million and they had Tatis.

The Giants will invest in pitching, probably bring back Belt, and perhaps add one outfield bat. This isnt basketball where adding 1 mega star suddenly makes a team a guarantee to make the playoffs every year. Paying Correa over 300 million would be a huge mistake. Now if the discussion was Juan Soto, Vlad Jr, or Fernando Tatis, that would be a different story because they are truly elite hitters who can hit 40-50 homeruns and not hit 6th in the lineup like Correa did for much of the year

Originally posted by 4ML:
Btw...on Luciano - this is from a quick search:

"In addition to his offensive promise, Luciano also offers plus arm strength, a high baseball IQ and good actions at shortstop. There's still some question as to whether he can remain at short because he has fringy speed and could lose a step as he gets more physical, but the worst-case scenario is that he shifts to third base or right field. He has the tools to be a solid defender at either spot and his bat makes him a potential superstar anywhere he plays."

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All I am saying is - talent like Correa who are entering their prime are not available every year in FA. At least you go at him. It will be tough to outbid Yankees but he may prefer the West Coast over East Coast. Who knows? I think it will be money well spent on a player like him. Our books are going to be clean after next season. We can go and splurge in the FA. Of course add pitching - but adding a bat like Correa to this lineup will be such a massive boost.

the guy hit .279 with 26 homeruns. He has never driven in 100 runs, never hit 30 homeruns, and has never been the best hitter on his own team. And those numbers are hitting in Houston where all RH batters drool to hit. Yet, you want to pay Correa 300 million (because it will probably take that to outbid NY). I say hell no.

Originally posted by 4ML:
Btw...on Luciano - this is from a quick search:

"In addition to his offensive promise, Luciano also offers plus arm strength, a high baseball IQ and good actions at shortstop. There's still some question as to whether he can remain at short because he has fringy speed and could lose a step as he gets more physical, but the worst-case scenario is that he shifts to third base or right field. He has the tools to be a solid defender at either spot and his bat makes him a potential superstar anywhere he plays."

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All I am saying is - talent like Correa who are entering their prime are not available every year in FA. At least you go at him. It will be tough to outbid Yankees but he may prefer the West Coast over East Coast. Who knows? I think it will be money well spent on a player like him. Our books are going to be clean after next season. We can go and splurge in the FA. Of course add pitching - but adding a bat like Correa to this lineup will be such a massive boost.

The Giants currently have a SS that was an MVP candidate this year, and have Luciano in the wings, who might be the best prospect in baseball this time next year. They aren't going to drop 300 mil on Correa. If Luciano needs to move to 3B or OF in the future, so be it, but they're not going to give out the biggest contract in franchise history to a SS right now. Correa is going to get franchise cornerstone money, and hes a 25 hr, 85 rbi, .275 avg type guy. They need to spend that money on the areas that need more help, like pitching.

^^^

Fair enough - I do agree that he's not worth 300m - I was hoping for a contract somewhere around 8 year 200m contract.

Then other option:
Go after Marcus Semien. He was a SS - moved to 2B - looked pretty damn good there and played for A's before.

Bring back Wood, Gausman and DeSclafani.

2023 is when the outfield will get influx of talent hopefully. Really hoping Matos and Pomares will have massive seasons next year in minors.

Bart and Ramos will hopefully be called up next season.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Atlanta's GM saved the season for the Braves:

Eddie Rosario and Cash for Pablo Sandoval LOL
Adam Duvall for some catcher named Alex Jackson whose career major league average is .070

Alex Jackson was the 6th overall pick, he's a highly rated prospect. He's only played 60 games man, that's not much to judge off of.

Originally posted by 4ML:
^^^

Fair enough - I do agree that he's not worth 300m - I was hoping for a contract somewhere around 8 year 200m contract.

Then other option:
Go after Marcus Semien. He was a SS - moved to 2B - looked pretty damn good there and played for A's before.

Bring back Wood, Gausman and DeSclafani.

2023 is when the outfield will get influx of talent hopefully. Really hoping Matos and Pomares will have massive seasons next year in minors.

Bart and Ramos will hopefully be called up next season.

I like semien and he's most likely to wanna be here since he's from the area but his contract has to be short and sweet for me. He's 31 but I think it's going to be adding starting pitching, bringing guys back and going bargain bin hunting. I think the only way this team would've spent crazy money if a young/prime OF was available in FA like Harper was a few years ago. Still think they try to bring back Bryant but won't get into a bidding war with like the Mets or whoever

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Atlanta's GM saved the season for the Braves:

Eddie Rosario and Cash for Pablo Sandoval LOL
Adam Duvall for some catcher named Alex Jackson whose career major league average is .070

Alex Jackson was the 6th overall pick, he's a highly rated prospect. He's only played 60 games man, that's not much to judge off of.

That draft was 7 years ago. He was highly rated at one time but not anymore. Seattle traded him away 2 years after drafting him for 2 guys who arent even in the major leagues. I guess they admitted their mistake.

Lots of guys picked in the top 10 in MLB drafts are busts and Jackson appears to be one of them. Lifetime .237 minor league hitter who failed in his first attempt to hit in the majors.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by 4ML:
Btw...on Luciano - this is from a quick search:

"In addition to his offensive promise, Luciano also offers plus arm strength, a high baseball IQ and good actions at shortstop. There's still some question as to whether he can remain at short because he has fringy speed and could lose a step as he gets more physical, but the worst-case scenario is that he shifts to third base or right field. He has the tools to be a solid defender at either spot and his bat makes him a potential superstar anywhere he plays."

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All I am saying is - talent like Correa who are entering their prime are not available every year in FA. At least you go at him. It will be tough to outbid Yankees but he may prefer the West Coast over East Coast. Who knows? I think it will be money well spent on a player like him. Our books are going to be clean after next season. We can go and splurge in the FA. Of course add pitching - but adding a bat like Correa to this lineup will be such a massive boost.

The Giants currently have a SS that was an MVP candidate this year, and have Luciano in the wings, who might be the best prospect in baseball this time next year. They aren't going to drop 300 mil on Correa. If Luciano needs to move to 3B or OF in the future, so be it, but they're not going to give out the biggest contract in franchise history to a SS right now. Correa is going to get franchise cornerstone money, and hes a 25 hr, 85 rbi, .275 avg type guy. They need to spend that money on the areas that need more help, like pitching.

Let's see how he fares in Eugene and Richmond. It's not a given he'll hit well at either level.

Originally posted by SFrush:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by 4ML:
Btw...on Luciano - this is from a quick search:

"In addition to his offensive promise, Luciano also offers plus arm strength, a high baseball IQ and good actions at shortstop. There's still some question as to whether he can remain at short because he has fringy speed and could lose a step as he gets more physical, but the worst-case scenario is that he shifts to third base or right field. He has the tools to be a solid defender at either spot and his bat makes him a potential superstar anywhere he plays."

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All I am saying is - talent like Correa who are entering their prime are not available every year in FA. At least you go at him. It will be tough to outbid Yankees but he may prefer the West Coast over East Coast. Who knows? I think it will be money well spent on a player like him. Our books are going to be clean after next season. We can go and splurge in the FA. Of course add pitching - but adding a bat like Correa to this lineup will be such a massive boost.

The Giants currently have a SS that was an MVP candidate this year, and have Luciano in the wings, who might be the best prospect in baseball this time next year. They aren't going to drop 300 mil on Correa. If Luciano needs to move to 3B or OF in the future, so be it, but they're not going to give out the biggest contract in franchise history to a SS right now. Correa is going to get franchise cornerstone money, and hes a 25 hr, 85 rbi, .275 avg type guy. They need to spend that money on the areas that need more help, like pitching.

Let's see how he fares in Eugene and Richmond. It's not a given he'll hit well at either level.

He'll be fine. Hes a rare talent. Last year he hit a 119 mph HR. To put that in perspective, only 3 Major League HR have ever been measured with a faster exit velocity, hit by Stanton and Judge.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by SFrush:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by 4ML:
Btw...on Luciano - this is from a quick search:

"In addition to his offensive promise, Luciano also offers plus arm strength, a high baseball IQ and good actions at shortstop. There's still some question as to whether he can remain at short because he has fringy speed and could lose a step as he gets more physical, but the worst-case scenario is that he shifts to third base or right field. He has the tools to be a solid defender at either spot and his bat makes him a potential superstar anywhere he plays."

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All I am saying is - talent like Correa who are entering their prime are not available every year in FA. At least you go at him. It will be tough to outbid Yankees but he may prefer the West Coast over East Coast. Who knows? I think it will be money well spent on a player like him. Our books are going to be clean after next season. We can go and splurge in the FA. Of course add pitching - but adding a bat like Correa to this lineup will be such a massive boost.

The Giants currently have a SS that was an MVP candidate this year, and have Luciano in the wings, who might be the best prospect in baseball this time next year. They aren't going to drop 300 mil on Correa. If Luciano needs to move to 3B or OF in the future, so be it, but they're not going to give out the biggest contract in franchise history to a SS right now. Correa is going to get franchise cornerstone money, and hes a 25 hr, 85 rbi, .275 avg type guy. They need to spend that money on the areas that need more help, like pitching.

Let's see how he fares in Eugene and Richmond. It's not a given he'll hit well at either level.

He'll be fine. Hes a rare talent. Last year he hit a 119 mph HR. To put that in perspective, only 3 Major League HR have ever been measured with a faster exit velocity, hit by Stanton and Judge.

You should also put in perspective that happened in the Arizona Instructional League. There are a bunch of raw arms in that league. Hitting well in Eugene and Richmond (Pitcher Parks)will be way more challenging.

Originally posted by SFrush:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by SFrush:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by 4ML:
Btw...on Luciano - this is from a quick search:

"In addition to his offensive promise, Luciano also offers plus arm strength, a high baseball IQ and good actions at shortstop. There's still some question as to whether he can remain at short because he has fringy speed and could lose a step as he gets more physical, but the worst-case scenario is that he shifts to third base or right field. He has the tools to be a solid defender at either spot and his bat makes him a potential superstar anywhere he plays."

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All I am saying is - talent like Correa who are entering their prime are not available every year in FA. At least you go at him. It will be tough to outbid Yankees but he may prefer the West Coast over East Coast. Who knows? I think it will be money well spent on a player like him. Our books are going to be clean after next season. We can go and splurge in the FA. Of course add pitching - but adding a bat like Correa to this lineup will be such a massive boost.

The Giants currently have a SS that was an MVP candidate this year, and have Luciano in the wings, who might be the best prospect in baseball this time next year. They aren't going to drop 300 mil on Correa. If Luciano needs to move to 3B or OF in the future, so be it, but they're not going to give out the biggest contract in franchise history to a SS right now. Correa is going to get franchise cornerstone money, and hes a 25 hr, 85 rbi, .275 avg type guy. They need to spend that money on the areas that need more help, like pitching.

Let's see how he fares in Eugene and Richmond. It's not a given he'll hit well at either level.

He'll be fine. Hes a rare talent. Last year he hit a 119 mph HR. To put that in perspective, only 3 Major League HR have ever been measured with a faster exit velocity, hit by Stanton and Judge.

You should also put in perspective that happened in the Arizona Instructional League. There are a bunch of raw arms in that league. Hitting well in Eugene and Richmond (Pitcher Parks)will be way more challenging.

He hit the HR off the Rockies number 2 prospect. Plus its not like anyone can just hit a 119 mph HR if the pitcher sucks. At this point he's established enough as a prospect that it would surprise me if he fizzled out in AA. Bat speed like that is rare.