***2021 NBA PLAYOFFS THREAD***

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Give me the tl;Dr version @ SWH. Lol

No. Read it all (including the article I linked) when you have some time.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
If I had any gripe with GS, it's some of their fans. Those who forgot what a bad franchise it's been for all those years, and then so many new bandwagon fans now. I mean go look at the GS thread 10+ years ago, and most those people who root for them now were no where to be found back before Curry/Klay/Green lol, and they posted a lot here.

IMO, the toxicity that people find with the Warriors fanbase has been brought out by the fans and media. The fanbase wasnt always like this. Like you said, we were a bad franchise. We were the Detroit Lions of the NBA. The ownership and bad front office did everything in their power to alienate our fans and drive us away. But we didnt. We were widely regarded as one of the best and most loyal fanbases in the NBA. We were desperate for a winner. We were desperate for a superstar player we could call our own. Most of us waited decades for this to happen (minus a year or two of success sprinkled in there).

And when we finally got our superstar and when we finally got our championships what happened? The media and legions of NBA fans tried to discredit it at every turn. Tons of us have been waiting our whole lives for a superstar leading a great team that we could all be proud of. If you want a good read about what we had to suffer through, check this article from 2012 out: https://grantland.com/features/how-annoy-fan-base-60-easy-steps/ . I personally have only been a fan from #10 onwards, but a lot of people were fans before then and had to deal with this crap.

2014 came around, and we finally got what we have wanted. And our team has received nothing but hate ever since. Curry's MVPs are discredited by the masses. We have heard our first title didnt count because we had some injury luck. Then we did the unthinkable and won 73 games during the next season. But a series of unfortunate events, matched with some subpar play at the end, cost us a repeat. What happened after that? More hate discrediting our team. Didnt matter that we had the best regular season of all time. Kyries shot meant none of that mattered, and our 73 win season was ridiculed and not celebrated. Then we did what EVERY single team in the NBA that could afford it tried to do...lure one of the best players in the league to join our team, which is what we did. The next two years we had arguably the greatest team in NBA history, and won 2 titles. Then what happened? Those same people (media and fans), discredit those two titles because we created this unbeatable team. Those titles were known as phony titles and we still couldnt get any respect. Then WE had a bunch of injuries the next year which cost us a 3 peat and what happened? The masses celebrated our injuries and called them karma for facing a few injured squads in the previous 4 years.

And now we have arrived in 2022, and the same garbage is happening. The media and the masses of NBA fans are once again discrediting what we are doing. Ja going out means we were the luckiest team in the playoffs. The Suns sh**ting the bed, means we are told we now had to play a team in the WCF that doesnt deserve to be there, in spite of hearing a week ago that the Mavs should be able to beat us. Curry does his job and at times extends leads to put games out of reach...and he is called a stat padding frontrunner. It just never stops man.

We are the most disrespected dynasty in the history of sports, and honestly, its not even close. You wonder why our fanbase is toxic, sensitive, combative, etc. We finally have everything we have waited decades for, and still cant get any respect. Never seen anything like it before.

Sorry for the rant.

Fans of other teams will never understand!! What if C.Webb and Spree played more than a year together, What if we would've kept Vince Carter instead of trading his rights for Jamison, What if they actually had the balls to draft Kobe and not Todd Fuller, Joe Lacob & Co. have been what this fanbase had been longing for!

Media hates cause they are not the Lakers, Celtics, or Knicks.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
If I had any gripe with GS, it's some of their fans. Those who forgot what a bad franchise it's been for all those years, and then so many new bandwagon fans now. I mean go look at the GS thread 10+ years ago, and most those people who root for them now were no where to be found back before Curry/Klay/Green lol, and they posted a lot here.

IMO, the toxicity that people find with the Warriors fanbase has been brought out by the fans and media. The fanbase wasnt always like this. Like you said, we were a bad franchise. We were the Detroit Lions of the NBA. The ownership and bad front office did everything in their power to alienate our fans and drive us away. But we didnt. We were widely regarded as one of the best and most loyal fanbases in the NBA. We were desperate for a winner. We were desperate for a superstar player we could call our own. Most of us waited decades for this to happen (minus a year or two of success sprinkled in there).

And when we finally got our superstar and when we finally got our championships what happened? The media and legions of NBA fans tried to discredit it at every turn. Tons of us have been waiting our whole lives for a superstar leading a great team that we could all be proud of. If you want a good read about what we had to suffer through, check this article from 2012 out: https://grantland.com/features/how-annoy-fan-base-60-easy-steps/ . I personally have only been a fan from #10 onwards, but a lot of people were fans before then and had to deal with this crap.

2014 came around, and we finally got what we have wanted. And our team has received nothing but hate ever since. Curry's MVPs are discredited by the masses. We have heard our first title didnt count because we had some injury luck. Then we did the unthinkable and won 73 games during the next season. But a series of unfortunate events, matched with some subpar play at the end, cost us a repeat. What happened after that? More hate discrediting our team. Didnt matter that we had the best regular season of all time. Kyries shot meant none of that mattered, and our 73 win season was ridiculed and not celebrated. Then we did what EVERY single team in the NBA that could afford it tried to do...lure one of the best players in the league to join our team, which is what we did. The next two years we had arguably the greatest team in NBA history, and won 2 titles. Then what happened? Those same people (media and fans), discredit those two titles because we created this unbeatable team. Those titles were known as phony titles and we still couldnt get any respect. Then WE had a bunch of injuries the next year which cost us a 3 peat and what happened? The masses celebrated our injuries and called them karma for facing a few injured squads in the previous 4 years.

And now we have arrived in 2022, and the same garbage is happening. The media and the masses of NBA fans are once again discrediting what we are doing. Ja going out means we were the luckiest team in the playoffs. The Suns sh**ting the bed, means we are told we now had to play a team in the WCF that doesnt deserve to be there, in spite of hearing a week ago that the Mavs should be able to beat us. Curry does his job and at times extends leads to put games out of reach...and he is called a stat padding frontrunner. It just never stops man.

We are the most disrespected dynasty in the history of sports, and honestly, its not even close. You wonder why our fanbase is toxic, sensitive, combative, etc. We finally have everything we have waited decades for, and still cant get any respect. Never seen anything like it before.

Sorry for the rant.

Mehh, I mean look I am not a warriors fans so I can't speak to all this….But pretty much all of the recent dynasties get major fan grief. The Celtics were known as the OG super team when Ray and KG joined, then them being Boston they were hated. The Lakers when trading for Pau Gasol (LOL) got crushed for awhile. The Miami Heat and the decision got rocked probably more than anyone. until the KD deal. I don't remember many people (outside of talking heads on ESPN whose job it is to b***h about nothing) giving the Warriors any grief….before KD joined. That Iggy / steph/ Klay/ Draymond core team were celebrated and changed the landscape of the NBA. Durant joining changed everything, and that's not even close to what any of the other dynasty teams had going on. That would be like Kobe joining the Celtics after they beat him in the finals. So, yea that was pretty lame for the NBA just in general. But they won their ships there isn't any asterisk or whatever, but no one was impressed and rightfully so.

If the dubs win this year, you have to hand it to Lacob that FO and players for one of the better rebuilding jobs in recent memory. On par with Lakers going from Shaq and 4 straight finals to getting back to 3 straight finals with an entirely different team (Kobe being the constant) a decade a part. Its really hard to do.

Originally posted by DynastyChile:
Mehh, I mean look I am not a warriors fans so I can't speak to all this….But pretty much all of the recent dynasties get major fan grief. The Celtics were known as the OG super team when Ray and KG joined, then them being Boston they were hated. The Lakers when trading for Pau Gasol (LOL) got crushed for awhile. The Miami Heat and the decision got rocked probably more than anyone. until the KD deal. I don't remember many people (outside of talking heads on ESPN whose job it is to b***h about nothing) giving the Warriors any grief….before KD joined. That Iggy / steph/ Klay/ Draymond core team were celebrated and changed the landscape of the NBA. Durant joining changed everything, and that's not even close to what any of the other dynasty teams had going on. That would be like Kobe joining the Celtics after they beat him in the finals. So, yea that was pretty lame for the NBA just in general. But they won their ships there isn't any asterisk or whatever, but no one was impressed and rightfully so.

If the dubs win this year, you have to hand it to Lacob that FO and players for one of the better rebuilding jobs in recent memory. On par with Lakers going from Shaq and 4 straight finals to getting back to 3 straight finals with an entirely different team (Kobe being the constant) a decade a part. Its really hard to do.

The level of hate that the Celtics got for trading for Kevin Garnett isnt even close to the amount of hate the Warriors have gotten over the course of our dynasty run. The hate that the Decision brought was 100% directed at Lebron James, and not the Miami Heat. Not to mention that neither the Heat nor the Celtics were actual dynasties. I dont recall the hate the Lakers got for trading for Gasol, but you would know more than I. I didnt once hear a single fan, analyst, etc try to discredit the Lakers rings and call them phony because you guys traded for Gasol (who, lets be honest, was nothing more than a fringe all star prior to playing with Kobe).

I stand by my statement that the Warriors are the most hated dynasty of all time. But to your point, the hate in the first two years was almost entirely fan hate (I should have clarified this). It wasnt until we signed KD and EVERY subsequent year after that (including the present), the media has hopped on board with the NBA fan hate. I have never seen anything like it. Discrediting the Warriors at every turn. Even now, we are hearing how we got lucky with Ja going down and us not having to play the Suns....even as much as media members calling this the "most boring playoffs in recent history."

It never stops.

The Dubs know how to win and when they smell blood you're finished. They will be a definite factor next year to repeat. In all my years following the NBA I have never seen a team immortalized as the 2008 Celtics. In Boston they're still living off that Ship.

Just wait and see the reaction of the masses when Steph is awarded the Western Conference Finals MVP to see more examples of what I mean.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
The level of hate that the Celtics got for trading for Kevin Garnett isnt even close to the amount of hate the Warriors have gotten over the course of our dynasty run. The hate that the Decision brought was 100% directed at Lebron James, and not the Miami Heat. Not to mention that neither the Heat nor the Celtics were actual dynasties. I dont recall the hate the Lakers got for trading for Gasol, but you would know more than I. I didnt once hear a single fan, analyst, etc try to discredit the Lakers rings and call them phony because you guys traded for Gasol (who, lets be honest, was nothing more than a fringe all star prior to playing with Kobe).

I stand by my statement that the Warriors are the most hated dynasty of all time. But to your point, the hate in the first two years was almost entirely fan hate (I should have clarified this). It wasnt until we signed KD and EVERY subsequent year after that (including the present), the media has hopped on board with the NBA fan hate. I have never seen anything like it. Discrediting the Warriors at every turn. Even now, we are hearing how we got lucky with Ja going down and us not having to play the Suns....even as much as media members calling this the "most boring playoffs in recent history."

It never stops.

Ok that's all fair, but fan hate when you drafted stephy klay and draymond during the pre Durant Warriors? Who hated on them? I really don't remember them being hated, at all...They were the most fun O, most organically built team in my lifetime. Maybe you just have never experienced being good and the built in hate that comes with it...That's every team, ever haha. There was no added hate IMO.

Originally posted by RishikeshA:
The Dubs know how to win and when they smell blood you're finished. They will be a definite factor next year to repeat. In all my years following the NBA I have never seen a team immortalized as the 2008 Celtics. In Boston they're still living off that Ship.

Right. Its crazy. Paul Pierce and Kendrick Perkins act as if they had a 4-peat the way they glorify that one ring.

Originally posted by DynastyChile:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
The level of hate that the Celtics got for trading for Kevin Garnett isnt even close to the amount of hate the Warriors have gotten over the course of our dynasty run. The hate that the Decision brought was 100% directed at Lebron James, and not the Miami Heat. Not to mention that neither the Heat nor the Celtics were actual dynasties. I dont recall the hate the Lakers got for trading for Gasol, but you would know more than I. I didnt once hear a single fan, analyst, etc try to discredit the Lakers rings and call them phony because you guys traded for Gasol (who, lets be honest, was nothing more than a fringe all star prior to playing with Kobe).

I stand by my statement that the Warriors are the most hated dynasty of all time. But to your point, the hate in the first two years was almost entirely fan hate (I should have clarified this). It wasnt until we signed KD and EVERY subsequent year after that (including the present), the media has hopped on board with the NBA fan hate. I have never seen anything like it. Discrediting the Warriors at every turn. Even now, we are hearing how we got lucky with Ja going down and us not having to play the Suns....even as much as media members calling this the "most boring playoffs in recent history."

It never stops.

Ok that's all fair, but fan hate when you drafted stephy klay and draymond during the pre Durant Warriors? Who hated on them? I really don't remember them being hated, at all...They were the most fun O, most organically built team in my lifetime. Maybe you just have never experienced being good and the built in hate that comes with it...That's every team, ever haha. There was no added hate IMO.

I think it's just easier to root for the underdog (Cavs in 2016, Raptors in 2019) when your team is out. Steph's arrogance, KD joining an all-NBA team, and simply Draymond Green make it a bit easier looking back. On the flipside, I was genuinely happy that the Warriors came roaring back this year after the misfortune they had to deal with the past couple of years but am not looking forward them to in the Finals (anti anti-jinx) if the C's (I grew up overseas) beat the Heat.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by RishikeshA:
The Dubs know how to win and when they smell blood you're finished. They will be a definite factor next year to repeat. In all my years following the NBA I have never seen a team immortalized as the 2008 Celtics. In Boston they're still living off that Ship.

Right. Its crazy. Paul Pierce and Kendrick Perkins act as if they had a 4-peat the way they glorify that one ring.

The loss to the crap Lakers in 2010 when they were up 10 with 4 mins to go in game 7 still stings in my book. Some bozo (that Bynum guy) on the Lakers injured Perkins from what I remember in game 6. f**king clown Sasha Vuvevic has to be the one making the free throws at the end to seal it.

lol Warriors fans playing victims

Originally posted by 49erminion:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by RishikeshA:
The Dubs know how to win and when they smell blood you're finished. They will be a definite factor next year to repeat. In all my years following the NBA I have never seen a team immortalized as the 2008 Celtics. In Boston they're still living off that Ship.

Right. Its crazy. Paul Pierce and Kendrick Perkins act as if they had a 4-peat the way they glorify that one ring.

The loss to the crap Lakers in 2010 when they were up 10 with 4 mins to go in game 7 still stings in my book. Some bozo (that Bynum guy) on the Lakers injured Perkins from what I remember in game 6. f**king clown Sasha Vuvevic has to be the one making the free throws at the end to seal it.

Sasha steph curry vujevic is a god

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
If I had any gripe with GS, it's some of their fans. Those who forgot what a bad franchise it's been for all those years, and then so many new bandwagon fans now. I mean go look at the GS thread 10+ years ago, and most those people who root for them now were no where to be found back before Curry/Klay/Green lol, and they posted a lot here.

IMO, the toxicity that people find with the Warriors fanbase has been brought out by the fans and media. The fanbase wasnt always like this. Like you said, we were a bad franchise. We were the Detroit Lions of the NBA. The ownership and bad front office did everything in their power to alienate our fans and drive us away. But we didnt. We were widely regarded as one of the best and most loyal fanbases in the NBA. We were desperate for a winner. We were desperate for a superstar player we could call our own. Most of us waited decades for this to happen (minus a year or two of success sprinkled in there).

And when we finally got our superstar and when we finally got our championships what happened? The media and legions of NBA fans tried to discredit it at every turn. Tons of us have been waiting our whole lives for a superstar leading a great team that we could all be proud of. If you want a good read about what we had to suffer through, check this article from 2012 out: https://grantland.com/features/how-annoy-fan-base-60-easy-steps/ . I personally have only been a fan from #10 onwards, but a lot of people were fans before then and had to deal with this crap.

2014 came around, and we finally got what we have wanted. And our team has received nothing but hate ever since. Curry's MVPs are discredited by the masses. We have heard our first title didnt count because we had some injury luck. Then we did the unthinkable and won 73 games during the next season. But a series of unfortunate events, matched with some subpar play at the end, cost us a repeat. What happened after that? More hate discrediting our team. Didnt matter that we had the best regular season of all time. Kyries shot meant none of that mattered, and our 73 win season was ridiculed and not celebrated. Then we did what EVERY single team in the NBA that could afford it tried to do...lure one of the best players in the league to join our team, which is what we did. The next two years we had arguably the greatest team in NBA history, and won 2 titles. Then what happened? Those same people (media and fans), discredit those two titles because we created this unbeatable team. Those titles were known as phony titles and we still couldnt get any respect. Then WE had a bunch of injuries the next year which cost us a 3 peat and what happened? The masses celebrated our injuries and called them karma for facing a few injured squads in the previous 4 years.

And now we have arrived in 2022, and the same garbage is happening. The media and the masses of NBA fans are once again discrediting what we are doing. Ja going out means we were the luckiest team in the playoffs. The Suns sh**ting the bed, means we are told we now had to play a team in the WCF that doesnt deserve to be there, in spite of hearing a week ago that the Mavs should be able to beat us. Curry does his job and at times extends leads to put games out of reach...and he is called a stat padding frontrunner. It just never stops man.

We are the most disrespected dynasty in the history of sports, and honestly, its not even close. You wonder why our fanbase is toxic, sensitive, combative, etc. We finally have everything we have waited decades for, and still cant get any respect. Never seen anything like it before.

Sorry for the rant.

I'm not a Warriors fan, but they are awesome to watch. Steph Curry is one of the legendary players of the game . Seeing and knowing what they were before 2013 outside of that "We Believe" playoff run in 2007 and it's hard to not root for Golden State. Anyone trying to discredit a Warriors dynasty is a LeBron stan who can't get over that their "GOAT" got humiliated by them over and over with 2016 being that exception because Draymond pulled a stupid and selfish foul that got him suspended for a game that would've clinched them a championship. Just enjoy your rings. All dynasty in sports especially in basketball tend to get discredited by losers.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by DynastyChile:
Mehh, I mean look I am not a warriors fans so I can't speak to all this….But pretty much all of the recent dynasties get major fan grief. The Celtics were known as the OG super team when Ray and KG joined, then them being Boston they were hated. The Lakers when trading for Pau Gasol (LOL) got crushed for awhile. The Miami Heat and the decision got rocked probably more than anyone. until the KD deal. I don't remember many people (outside of talking heads on ESPN whose job it is to b***h about nothing) giving the Warriors any grief….before KD joined. That Iggy / steph/ Klay/ Draymond core team were celebrated and changed the landscape of the NBA. Durant joining changed everything, and that's not even close to what any of the other dynasty teams had going on. That would be like Kobe joining the Celtics after they beat him in the finals. So, yea that was pretty lame for the NBA just in general. But they won their ships there isn't any asterisk or whatever, but no one was impressed and rightfully so.

If the dubs win this year, you have to hand it to Lacob that FO and players for one of the better rebuilding jobs in recent memory. On par with Lakers going from Shaq and 4 straight finals to getting back to 3 straight finals with an entirely different team (Kobe being the constant) a decade a part. Its really hard to do.

The level of hate that the Celtics got for trading for Kevin Garnett isnt even close to the amount of hate the Warriors have gotten over the course of our dynasty run. The hate that the Decision brought was 100% directed at Lebron James, and not the Miami Heat. Not to mention that neither the Heat nor the Celtics were actual dynasties. I dont recall the hate the Lakers got for trading for Gasol, but you would know more than I. I didnt once hear a single fan, analyst, etc try to discredit the Lakers rings and call them phony because you guys traded for Gasol (who, lets be honest, was nothing more than a fringe all star prior to playing with Kobe).

I stand by my statement that the Warriors are the most hated dynasty of all time. But to your point, the hate in the first two years was almost entirely fan hate (I should have clarified this). It wasnt until we signed KD and EVERY subsequent year after that (including the present), the media has hopped on board with the NBA fan hate. I have never seen anything like it. Discrediting the Warriors at every turn. Even now, we are hearing how we got lucky with Ja going down and us not having to play the Suns....even as much as media members calling this the "most boring playoffs in recent history."

It never stops.

This is 100% b******t. Yes LeBron brought a lot of hate with him, but EVERYONE attacked the Miami Heat organization and their fans every chance they got those 4 years, I've honestly never seen a team receive such toxicity in any sport in my life than with the Miami Big 3, at least the first 2 seasons, some of the hate began to tone down after they beat OKC. Had LeBron/Wade/Bosh decided to go to New York like the media wanted or Chicago, nobody would've cared, in fact they probably would've been celebrated.

What have I started