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Originally posted by 4ML:
"Turnovers. I mean, when we don't turn the ball over, we're a pretty good team," Lebron James said. "When we turn the ball over it definitely takes the sails out of us and we've got to do a better job of that. Especially me."
Let's win some games...playing Houston twice and OKC over the next 3 games at home. Gotta win these AND look better.
Originally posted by 4ML:
Not only Westbrook has to adjust to the new teammates - the team has to adjust to Westbrook speed and where he wants to go and do in transition. He has been horrendous so far with the Lakers in transition and we know Westbrook is one of the better transition players in the league. So, it's only a matter of time he (and the team) figures it out. His 3pt shot is still s**t - we knew that - he will turn the ball over - we knew that (but not at the current rate) - and he will make some bone-headed plays.
Harden, Paul George, Beal all had their best years playing next to Westbrook. I am not worried about him till there is time to worry. Give him 20 games.
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Not only Westbrook has to adjust to the new teammates - the team has to adjust to Westbrook speed and where he wants to go and do in transition. He has been horrendous so far with the Lakers in transition and we know Westbrook is one of the better transition players in the league. So, it's only a matter of time he (and the team) figures it out. His 3pt shot is still s**t - we knew that - he will turn the ball over - we knew that (but not at the current rate) - and he will make some bone-headed plays.
Harden, Paul George, Beal all had their best years playing next to Westbrook. I am not worried about him till there is time to worry. Give him 20 games.
I just wish he would focus on his strengths which is driving to the hoop and hitting the glass. I really don't think he makes the Lakers better when you ask him to make plays or run the offense because he lacks too much concentration and inevitably takes a bad shot and has a high TO rate.
He seemed to consciously be trying to play smarter in the last game though so that was good to see.
Originally posted by JerrySandwich:
This team needs Ben Simmons
Originally posted by 4ML:
Melo gonna Melo.
Now he's averaging almost 17 a game while shooting 52% from 3 on almost 7 3s a game. Lol
Obviously these shooting numbers will come down but I won't be shocked if he hits 42-44% of 3s this year. Just a ridiculous start to the season though.
Team kind of had a let down in 4th again - and just kind of stopped playing again. Really can't wait till they get Nunn and THT back. Should be back by mid November. That'll really help the bench units. Not sure why Ellington is still out.
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
My friend!
Originally posted by DynastyChile:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Melo gonna Melo.
Now he's averaging almost 17 a game while shooting 52% from 3 on almost 7 3s a game. Lol
Obviously these shooting numbers will come down but I won't be shocked if he hits 42-44% of 3s this year. Just a ridiculous start to the season though.
Team kind of had a let down in 4th again - and just kind of stopped playing again. Really can't wait till they get Nunn and THT back. Should be back by mid November. That'll really help the bench units. Not sure why Ellington is still out.
Ya guy is crushing the Thunder and Rockets should last
Originally posted by 4ML:
Well his best game was against Memphis (playoff team from last year). Also - Lebron/AD/Westbrook will draw 2 against most teams - so Melo is gonna get open looks against pretty much everyone. At that point - it's about hitting dem open shots - doesn't really matter who the opponent is.
Originally posted by DynastyChile:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Well his best game was against Memphis (playoff team from last year). Also - Lebron/AD/Westbrook will draw 2 against most teams - so Melo is gonna get open looks against pretty much everyone. At that point - it's about hitting dem open shots - doesn't really matter who the opponent is.
lmao. Dude you're not this delusional right? The grizzlies are allowing 117 ppg, good for 29th in the NBA. They allowing other teams to shoot 42% from 3, also 2nd worse in the NBA. They absolutely blow on D. Actually the only thing that matters is who the opponent is, this is basketball. Carmelo against good teams who can guard perimeter will shoot us out of plenty of games, like he has been doing the past I don't know 5 years in the twilight of his career.
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by DynastyChile:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Well his best game was against Memphis (playoff team from last year). Also - Lebron/AD/Westbrook will draw 2 against most teams - so Melo is gonna get open looks against pretty much everyone. At that point - it's about hitting dem open shots - doesn't really matter who the opponent is.
lmao. Dude you're not this delusional right? The grizzlies are allowing 117 ppg, good for 29th in the NBA. They allowing other teams to shoot 42% from 3, also 2nd worse in the NBA. They absolutely blow on D. Actually the only thing that matters is who the opponent is, this is basketball. Carmelo against good teams who can guard perimeter will shoot us out of plenty of games, like he has been doing the past I don't know 5 years in the twilight of his career.
Ok couple of things:
1. He's being asked to be mostly a c&s 3pt sniper. He's either never been asked to do just that OR he's never fully embraced that role - so far both seem to be true.
2. When that's your role - you'll win games for your team when you're hot and you can lose games for your team when you're not - that's not exclusive to Melo.
3. Cavs are no. 13 defense and he did the same to them. I'm just saying - he's getting open looks regardless of opponent and should get them as long as big 3 are healthy. He's never gotten this many open looks in his life and I think he can continue to be a good role player on this team. Obviously he's not gonna shoot 52% from 3 - but I can absolutely see him shoot 42% from 3.
If you're open - you're open. At that point - does the opponent matter?
Originally posted by DynastyChile:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by DynastyChile:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Well his best game was against Memphis (playoff team from last year). Also - Lebron/AD/Westbrook will draw 2 against most teams - so Melo is gonna get open looks against pretty much everyone. At that point - it's about hitting dem open shots - doesn't really matter who the opponent is.
lmao. Dude you're not this delusional right? The grizzlies are allowing 117 ppg, good for 29th in the NBA. They allowing other teams to shoot 42% from 3, also 2nd worse in the NBA. They absolutely blow on D. Actually the only thing that matters is who the opponent is, this is basketball. Carmelo against good teams who can guard perimeter will shoot us out of plenty of games, like he has been doing the past I don't know 5 years in the twilight of his career.
Ok couple of things:
1. He's being asked to be mostly a c&s 3pt sniper. He's either never been asked to do just that OR he's never fully embraced that role - so far both seem to be true.
2. When that's your role - you'll win games for your team when you're hot and you can lose games for your team when you're not - that's not exclusive to Melo.
3. Cavs are no. 13 defense and he did the same to them. I'm just saying - he's getting open looks regardless of opponent and should get them as long as big 3 are healthy. He's never gotten this many open looks in his life and I think he can continue to be a good role player on this team. Obviously he's not gonna shoot 52% from 3 - but I can absolutely see him shoot 42% from 3.
If you're open - you're open. At that point - does the opponent matter?
Ya you'll be more open against bad defensive opponents. I don't think there much to argue there.
Bottom line this guy is atrocious on defense and doesn't give you anything in the rebounding department. 15-20 mins a game should be the absolute most once fully healthy…and deandre Jordan shouldn't even be rostered.
Originally posted by 4ML:
Agree on DeAndre Jordan. I hated that pickup. Same as Rondo. I think both are done. Rondo should be a coach.
Melo's minutes will go down once Ariza comes back. Still think he gets at least 20 minutes a game if he's hitting open 3s at a high rate. Melo has hit 40% of his 3s over the last two years with the Blazers (against good and bad teams) - and I'm quite certain he is gonna get more open looks and better passes on this team.
One thing we don't have to worry about Melo is - he isn't going to hesitate to shoot - which was the a BIG problem with last year's team.
As far as defense is consider - yes, Melo is pretty bad but Vogel can have better players around him. Putting Monk and Rondo in the same lineup as Melo is probably not the best idea as he did in couple of early games. But yea - he is a poor defender and he is not going to make proper rotations. That's why he wouldn't be in NBA unless he was Lebrons buddy