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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by 4ML:
This all started when Lebron joined the Lakers and 2 kings fans and 1 mormon started pmsing.

Lol nah you've been teetering the line for a very long time.
Btw who's to blame today for Lebron not achieving success in LA?

Obviously Bron. Dudes in his prime at 40 years old and should easily be carrying the Lakers to titles.

Same with Curry, all his fault too GS isn't a top contender..
[ Edited by GoreGoreGore on Feb 21, 2024 at 1:55 PM ]
An EASY 43

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by 4ML:
This all started when Lebron joined the Lakers and 2 kings fans and 1 mormon started pmsing.

Lol nah you've been teetering the line for a very long time.
Btw who's to blame today for Lebron not achieving success in LA?

Obviously Bron. Dudes in his prime at 40 years old and should easily be carrying the Lakers to titles.

Same with Curry, all his fault too GS isn't a top contender..

lol
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by 4ML:
This all started when Lebron joined the Lakers and 2 kings fans and 1 mormon started pmsing.

Lol nah you've been teetering the line for a very long time.
Btw who's to blame today for Lebron not achieving success in LA?

Lol what line? Why do you even care? lol this is reaching jiks level obsessiveness and creepiness.
Originally posted by Knowledge:
An EASY 43


lol
Originally posted by Knowledge:
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Is he miraculously gonna get a three point shot?
Originally posted by 4ML:
More ppl watch NBA today than in 1996. 30 total reg szn games were on a national tv back then - on NBC which is OTA channel and were only televised on Sat and Sun. Today 30 games are shown nationally in 2 weeks from first week of the season to the last.

Lol how are you gonna compare per game ratings of 30 games to approx 300 games?

Not to mention all the illegal streams that are available on social media for every single game today on phone. NBA streams are the easiest to find and most young ppl watch it like that.

lol no one is upset.

Your poss suggest otherwise, it'll be okay
Originally posted by 4ML:
More ppl watch NBA today than in 1996. 30 total reg szn games were on a national tv back then - on NBC which is OTA channel and were only televised on Sat and Sun. Today 30 games are shown nationally in 2 weeks from first week of the season to the last.

Lol how are you gonna compare per game ratings of 30 games to approx 300 games?

Not to mention all the illegal streams that are available on social media for every single game today on phone. NBA streams are the easiest to find and most young ppl watch it like that.

Eh, that's just due to how the sports market has grown, especially the NBA. NFL ratings are also very high, but few would say they prefer today's NFL to the 80s or 90s. Maybe the younger crowd like the more scoring over defense, but that's about it.

NBA is the same to me. It was better in the 90s and certain times in the 2000s. Defense was a bit more physical, and I miss the post game lol. When games were unwatchable during that era, it was because both teams were playing physical defense and refs would let it go (which made it boring too, nobody wants a 80-76 game).

But now some games are just completely unwatchable if two volume 3 point shooting teams play each other and their shot isn't falling. It's jack up 3s non stop and barely anything else. Previous eras at least you still saw a mix of offense even if it could be bad at times, it was a bit more entertaining.
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by 4ML:
More ppl watch NBA today than in 1996. 30 total reg szn games were on a national tv back then - on NBC which is OTA channel and were only televised on Sat and Sun. Today 30 games are shown nationally in 2 weeks from first week of the season to the last.

Lol how are you gonna compare per game ratings of 30 games to approx 300 games?

Not to mention all the illegal streams that are available on social media for every single game today on phone. NBA streams are the easiest to find and most young ppl watch it like that.

Eh, that's just due to how the sports market has grown, especially the NBA. NFL ratings are also very high, but few would say they prefer today's NFL to the 80s or 90s. Maybe the younger crowd like the more scoring over defense, but that's about it.

NBA is the same to me. It was better in the 90s and certain times in the 2000s. Defense was a bit more physical, and I miss the post game lol. When games were unwatchable during that era, it was because both teams were playing physical defense and refs would let it go (which made it boring too, nobody wants a 80-76 game).

But now some games are just completely unwatchable if two volume 3 point shooting teams play each other and their shot isn't falling. It's jack up 3s non stop and barely anything else. Previous eras at least you still saw a mix of offense even if it could be bad at times, it was a bit more entertaining.

Agree about the 3pt shooting in today's game. But, these were similar complaints back then.






Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by Knowledge:
An EASY 43


lol

Wilt said he would average 70 during the 90s lol - so yea.

Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by 4ML:
More ppl watch NBA today than in 1996. 30 total reg szn games were on a national tv back then - on NBC which is OTA channel and were only televised on Sat and Sun. Today 30 games are shown nationally in 2 weeks from first week of the season to the last.

Lol how are you gonna compare per game ratings of 30 games to approx 300 games?

Not to mention all the illegal streams that are available on social media for every single game today on phone. NBA streams are the easiest to find and most young ppl watch it like that.

Eh, that's just due to how the sports market has grown, especially the NBA. NFL ratings are also very high, but few would say they prefer today's NFL to the 80s or 90s. Maybe the younger crowd like the more scoring over defense, but that's about it.

NBA is the same to me. It was better in the 90s and certain times in the 2000s. Defense was a bit more physical, and I miss the post game lol. When games were unwatchable during that era, it was because both teams were playing physical defense and refs would let it go (which made it boring too, nobody wants a 80-76 game).

But now some games are just completely unwatchable if two volume 3 point shooting teams play each other and their shot isn't falling. It's jack up 3s non stop and barely anything else. Previous eras at least you still saw a mix of offense even if it could be bad at times, it was a bit more entertaining.

Agree about the 3pt shooting in today's game. But, these were similar complaints back then.







The volume of complaints has skyrocketed recently .
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by 4ML:
This all started when Lebron joined the Lakers and 2 kings fans and 1 mormon started pmsing.

Lol nah you've been teetering the line for a very long time.
Btw who's to blame today for Lebron not achieving success in LA?

Lol what line? Why do you even care? lol this is reaching jiks level obsessiveness and creepiness.

Well you would know
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by 4ML:
More ppl watch NBA today than in 1996. 30 total reg szn games were on a national tv back then - on NBC which is OTA channel and were only televised on Sat and Sun. Today 30 games are shown nationally in 2 weeks from first week of the season to the last.

Lol how are you gonna compare per game ratings of 30 games to approx 300 games?

Not to mention all the illegal streams that are available on social media for every single game today on phone. NBA streams are the easiest to find and most young ppl watch it like that.

Eh, that's just due to how the sports market has grown, especially the NBA. NFL ratings are also very high, but few would say they prefer today's NFL to the 80s or 90s. Maybe the younger crowd like the more scoring over defense, but that's about it.

NBA is the same to me. It was better in the 90s and certain times in the 2000s. Defense was a bit more physical, and I miss the post game lol. When games were unwatchable during that era, it was because both teams were playing physical defense and refs would let it go (which made it boring too, nobody wants a 80-76 game).

But now some games are just completely unwatchable if two volume 3 point shooting teams play each other and their shot isn't falling. It's jack up 3s non stop and barely anything else. Previous eras at least you still saw a mix of offense even if it could be bad at times, it was a bit more entertaining.

Agree about the 3pt shooting in today's game. But, these were similar complaints back then.







Ya no doubt, there was some really ugly games then as well. But imo, I rather see some lower scoring games that have different ways of teams trying to score, post, mid range, etc, than seeing some teams today just chucking up more than half their shots from 3 and barely anything else. So many teams today just keep forcing the 3 point shot, instead of just being aggressive and trying to attack the paint.
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Ya no doubt, there was some really ugly games then as well. But imo, I rather see some lower scoring games that have different ways of teams trying to score, post, mid range, etc, than seeing some teams today just chucking up more than half their shots from 3 and barely anything else. So many teams today just keep forcing the 3 point shot, instead of just being aggressive and trying to attack the paint.

No argument there - there is too many 3pt contests during the game. But, Post and mid range are not an effective spots to score from. They never were - hence the lowest scoring games in 90s and early 2000s. It's just how the sport has advanced.

Do think more contact needs to be allowed. But, the whole hand-checking rule conversation is silly though. Hand-checking was mostly dismantled in 1994 and scoring went down further. Hand-checking was weakened in 1978, then dismantled in 1994, and completely eradicated in 2004.

Also - Game is way more complex now and tv personalities & ex players who never played in this era have a tough time explaining & helping the fans understand the game. JJ Reddick recently expounded on that. Variety is not in whether it was a 3pt shot or mid-range - variety is in plays used to get an open shot.

It is what it is - I feel NBA needs couple tweaks. I remember Pat Riley and George Karl complaining in mid 90s how lack of talent has ruined the NBA offense bc in 70s and 80s - offenses were averaging similar numbers like today.
[ Edited by 4ML on Feb 22, 2024 at 3:00 PM ]
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Ya no doubt, there was some really ugly games then as well. But imo, I rather see some lower scoring games that have different ways of teams trying to score, post, mid range, etc, than seeing some teams today just chucking up more than half their shots from 3 and barely anything else. So many teams today just keep forcing the 3 point shot, instead of just being aggressive and trying to attack the paint.

No argument there - there is too many 3pt contests during the game. But, Post and mid range are not an effective spots to score from. They never were - hence the lowest scoring games in 90s and early 2000s. It's just how the sport has advanced.

Do think more contact needs to be allowed. But, the whole hand-checking rule conversation is silly though. Hand-checking was mostly dismantled in 1994 and scoring went down further. Hand-checking was weakened in 1978, then dismantled in 1994, and completely eradicated in 2004.

Also - Game is way more complex now and tv personalities & ex players who never played in this era have a tough time explaining & helping the fans understand the game. JJ Reddick recently expounded on that. Variety is not in whether it was a 3pt shot or mid-range - variety is in plays used to get an open shot.

It is what it is - I feel NBA needs couple tweaks. I remember Pat Riley and George Karl complaining in mid 90s how lack of talent has ruined the NBA offense bc in 70s and 80s - offenses were averaging similar numbers like today.

When you have 7 footers that can also shoot 3s, it makes some sense. Spacing the floor makes sense as well. Yes, it's smarter basketball if done correctly and if you have the players for it.

I think so many FOs/coaches fell in love with the Warriors blueprint of, this is how you win, and it's taking over the league in a bad way at times. If you don't have that kind of ball movement and creativity, you're not going to win consistently when it comes to deep playoff runs / rings. And of course having Curry/Klay in their primes helps even more lol, how many teams have all that?

Besides GS, what other team like that has won it all? Maybe you can say the Nuggets, but their offense started with and ended with their "I can do it all on offense" Center, and a good mix of, inside-outside offense.

Attacking the paint, having a post game for easy buckets/fouls, is always going to be king in basketball. Making a damn layup or a dunk or getting fouled is more high % no matter how they want to twist analytics in favor of the 3. If you're cold from 3, it's hard to over come that. It's hard to get "cold" when attempting a dunk or layup.
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