Wrestling Thread (WWE, AEW, etc)

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Would Ambrose be in a position to get the "go ahead," pipe bomb allowance like Punk?

After he beats Lesnar he will.

Originally posted by jrg:

Originally posted by 4everFaithful:

I miss stone cold

the GOAT

Originally posted by btthepunk:

After he beats Lesnar he will.

Don't think he beats Brock... but I think he will be booked to look strong. And possibly even earn a rare show of respect from Brock post match.

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by btthepunk:
After he beats Lesnar he will.

Don't think he beats Brock... but I think he will be booked to look strong. And possibly even earn a rare show of respect from Brock post match.

Getting respect from the guy who beat you to a pulp on a limo? I would say Dean to make it up should have hit Brock with the ambulance he came back in.

Joking aside, I think Brock loses by not losing like they booked him at Fastland and WM31.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by btthepunk:

After he beats Lesnar he will.

Don't think he beats Brock... but I think he will be booked to look strong. And possibly even earn a rare show of respect from Brock post match.

Getting respect from the guy who beat you to a pulp on a limo? I would say Dean to make it up should have hit Brock with the ambulance he came back in.

Joking aside, I think Brock loses by not losing like they booked him at Fastland and WM31.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Ambrose win. He's the hottest superstar going right now. A win would be humongous for him. Lesnar could take the loss and still be the same.

Now Ambrose winning because Heyman turns on Lesnar would be awesome.

Originally posted by btthepunk:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by btthepunk:
After he beats Lesnar he will.

Don't think he beats Brock... but I think he will be booked to look strong. And possibly even earn a rare show of respect from Brock post match.

Getting respect from the guy who beat you to a pulp on a limo? I would say Dean to make it up should have hit Brock with the ambulance he came back in.

Joking aside, I think Brock loses by not losing like they booked him at Fastland and WM31.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Ambrose win. He's the hottest superstar going right now. A win would be humongous for him. Lesnar could take the loss and still be the same.

Now Ambrose winning because Heyman turns on Lesnar would be awesome.

That would be great, but I don't want to see Heyman and Ambrose team up though. Dean doesnt need a mouthpiece to push him since he can do that all on his own.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by jrg:
Shane McMahon vs Undertaker

Hell In A Cell at Mania

lolwut

Taker gonna be 22-2.

How can they pull this off so that it feels right? I want a "Different Owner" for RAW, yet Taker has to dominate for his Legacy.

What are the Official Rules for HiaC? How can Shane O'Mac pull out a win over Taker that satisfies everything? No outside interference, yet it would add to the Anti-Establishment if somebody like Stone Cold (or better yet, CM Punk) caused the match to turn in favor of Shane.

Gonna have to think on this one a bit. Wonder if there will be a last minute substitution that fights on behalf of Shane due to an injury.

Hmmmmm.........Cena, anybody?

Originally posted by pdizo916:
http://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2016/2/22/11096308/vince-mcmahon-shane-mcmahon-wwe-raw-bleep-video


i thought maybe he said the word, f**k

@cagesideseats I'm at raw. He said to Shane you're gonna get a f**king beating

the double standards with Vinnie are hilarious.

glad Shane is back though. even if it's just for WM. great opening promo, sounded like a straight up shoot.

Originally posted by socal9er42:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by jrg:
Shane McMahon vs Undertaker

Hell In A Cell at Mania

lolwut

Taker gonna be 22-2.

How can they pull this off so that it feels right? I want a "Different Owner" for RAW, yet Taker has to dominate for his Legacy.

What are the Official Rules for HiaC? How can Shane O'Mac pull out a win over Taker that satisfies everything? No outside interference, yet it would add to the Anti-Establishment if somebody like Stone Cold (or better yet, CM Punk) caused the match to turn in favor of Shane.

Gonna have to think on this one a bit. Wonder if there will be a last minute substitution that fights on behalf of Shane due to an injury.

Hmmmmm.........Cena, anybody?

From what I've read this morning, this won't be a permanent thing. He still has his company in China, and he's on the board of directors of another company, so most likely it's a one time thing. Hope not though.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by btthepunk:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by btthepunk:
After he beats Lesnar he will.

Don't think he beats Brock... but I think he will be booked to look strong. And possibly even earn a rare show of respect from Brock post match.

Getting respect from the guy who beat you to a pulp on a limo? I would say Dean to make it up should have hit Brock with the ambulance he came back in.

Joking aside, I think Brock loses by not losing like they booked him at Fastland and WM31.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Ambrose win. He's the hottest superstar going right now. A win would be humongous for him. Lesnar could take the loss and still be the same.

Now Ambrose winning because Heyman turns on Lesnar would be awesome.

That would be great, but I don't want to see Heyman and Ambrose team up though. Dean doesnt need a mouthpiece to push him since he can do that all on his own.

Agreed Dean does not need Paul though the turn would be cool.

I think if Dean wins it is because of the Wyatt's interfering, setting up Bray vs Brock at some point and Dean vs Roman for the title post Mania.

-Original storyline was supposed to take place two years ago with Triple H vs. Vince's Guy (Austin or Rock) for power of WWE but Vince nixed the idea because he didn't want to be on TV.

-Deal between Shane & Vince was brokered a few weeks ago

-Shane does NOT have a management position with the company but that could always change

-Shane legitimately felt he would be the 4th generation McMahon to run the WWF/E but Stephanie had surpassed him due to her "product knowledge." Apparently everyone knew this but him. Vince ended up making it very clear that Triple H & Steph would run the company over him and that's why he quit (Makes Shane's promo all the more juicier)

-"There is a significant amount of life imitating art." Apparently there's a belief that a real life power struggle will occur if Shane's fully back in the picture

-Meltzer notes that Shane lives in NY, so it's possible for him to be a weekly television figure while running his company based in China.

-Meltzer and Alvarez discuss the possibility of a brand extension which, they note, have always sucked and never lived up to their potential.

-Meltzer cryptically notes that there's a reason why Triple H was not involved during the first segment. "There's a lot going on..."

-Meltzer notes that fans wouldn't be as receptive to Shane if they knew about his booking ideas. He claims that "almost everybody that I know personally liked Shane over Stephanie" but "when it came to ideas when it came to wrestling...when it came to wrestling angles, it was like Stephanie & Paul are so far ahead of him that it's not even funny."

-Meltzer discusses the idea of Undertaking purposely losing at 'Mania (think Finger Poke of Dome). Alvarez doesn't think this would happen at 'Mania but Meltzer doesn't shoot it down. Makes the point that the fans would get behind it for the greater good of Shane running RAW. The fact that Meltzer even brings this up as a possibility scares me lol.

-Meltzer notes that Vince botched the explanation re: the stipulations of this match. He clarifies that, if Undertaker wins, Vince gets back what's in the lockbox whereas if Shane wins, he controls RAW.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/4763yg/raw_spoilers_meltzers_take_on_wor/

Originally posted by KRS-1:
Agreed Dean does not need Paul though the turn would be cool.

I think if Dean wins it is because of the Wyatt's interfering, setting up Bray vs Brock at some point and Dean vs Roman for the title post Mania.

Yeah, Bray/Brock was supposed to happen at WM before Dean got hot. Would love to see Rollins return soon so we can get a proper Shield triple threat match at SS.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

-Original storyline was supposed to take place two years ago with Triple H vs. Vince's Guy (Austin or Rock) for power of WWE but Vince nixed the idea because he didn't want to be on TV.

-Deal between Shane & Vince was brokered a few weeks ago

-Shane does NOT have a management position with the company but that could always change

-Shane legitimately felt he would be the 4th generation McMahon to run the WWF/E but Stephanie had surpassed him due to her "product knowledge." Apparently everyone knew this but him. Vince ended up making it very clear that Triple H & Steph would run the company over him and that's why he quit (Makes Shane's promo all the more juicier)

-"There is a significant amount of life imitating art." Apparently there's a belief that a real life power struggle will occur if Shane's fully back in the picture

-Meltzer notes that Shane lives in NY, so it's possible for him to be a weekly television figure while running his company based in China.

-Meltzer and Alvarez discuss the possibility of a brand extension which, they note, have always sucked and never lived up to their potential.

-Meltzer cryptically notes that there's a reason why Triple H was not involved during the first segment. "There's a lot going on..."

-Meltzer notes that fans wouldn't be as receptive to Shane if they knew about his booking ideas. He claims that "almost everybody that I know personally liked Shane over Stephanie" but "when it came to ideas when it came to wrestling...when it came to wrestling angles, it was like Stephanie & Paul are so far ahead of him that it's not even funny."

-Meltzer discusses the idea of Undertaking purposely losing at 'Mania (think Finger Poke of Dome). Alvarez doesn't think this would happen at 'Mania but Meltzer doesn't shoot it down. Makes the point that the fans would get behind it for the greater good of Shane running RAW. The fact that Meltzer even brings this up as a possibility scares me lol.

-Meltzer notes that Vince botched the explanation re: the stipulations of this match. He clarifies that, if Undertaker wins, Vince gets back what's in the lockbox whereas if Shane wins, he controls RAW.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/4763yg/raw_spoilers_meltzers_take_on_wor/

I really hope they add some more depth to this Shane versus Undertaker match and don't leave it as cut and dry as it is. As it stands I see no reason that Taker would want to help Vince. I really hope this thing wasn't just thrown together last minute for a reaction moment but that there is a story at work here for why the Taker would even be invested in this match. With today's WWE booking, who knows.

On a side not you can almost see the writing on the wall for next years Wrestlemania's main event. It appears the year of Reigns is upon us and WWE is intent on it. Who else thinks next years main event will be the battle of Vince's two golden boys, Reigns versus Cena? Even if its face versus face. Obviously a lot can change between now and then but I'm sure Vince would love nothing more than for this to happen. Not really hating on it. Especially if it sells tickets. I personally would be kinda meh on it. I defiantly see it as a match that WWE would love to showcase and invest itself in long term though.

Now that Reigns got beat up, they need to say he is "injured" and "can't compete" at Wrestlemania. Then move in the next man up (Brock Lesnar) and have Lesnar vs. HHH at Mania and Ambrose vs. Owens.

Then we all win.