Wrestling Thread (WWE, AEW, etc)

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Debryune:
If they are bringing out the shield again, please don't let it run for 2 weeks and be over. It needs to be a longer thing, leading to the Ambrose heel turn.

I agree longer than 2 weeks but I want it to lead to us finally getting the Shield triple threat match at WM. And don't turn DA because the fans want to cheer for him, use the story to turn Roman finally.

if they were smart they would keep the Shield together, and have all of them turn heel. if Roman does well a heel, then you can have the Shield turn on Roman in a year from now and Roman will probably have a much higher chance then at getting accepted as a face.

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I have always thought that turning Roman for a good long while was the best way to eventually get him accepted as a face when the time would be right to turn him back.

it's the only way to do it when fans don't accept a character. it took Vince a while to figure that out when the product was stale in the early / mid 90s. now for some reason he has the same mindset again. if The Rock was wrestling in this era, he would've just kept him as Rocky Maivia for 5 years then released him lol.

Oh really?

Originally posted by JustinMT:
That's different. His Fruity Peebles connections made it too hard for them to let him go.

Although he was close to being released prior to his rapper gimmick.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
the rock already said he would've never developed that kind of personality without being a heel.

same with Cena, him being a heel "first" helped him out.

if Vince would've kept him as Rocky Maivia, he would've just remained a mid carder and probably would've gotten released 5 years later. Cena already had a name for himself as a popular heel before turning face, and Cena was popular as a face for a while until it got stale.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
the rock already said he would've never developed that kind of personality without being a heel.

same with Cena, him being a heel "first" helped him out.

if Vince would've kept him as Rocky Maivia, he would've just remained a mid carder and probably would've gotten released 5 years later. Cena already had a name for himself as a popular heel before turning face, and Cena was popular as a face for a while until it got stale.

Reigns and the Shield were heels when they started.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
the rock already said he would've never developed that kind of personality without being a heel.

same with Cena, him being a heel "first" helped him out.

if Vince would've kept him as Rocky Maivia, he would've just remained a mid carder and probably would've gotten released 5 years later. Cena already had a name for himself as a popular heel before turning face, and Cena was popular as a face for a while until it got stale.

Reigns and the Shield were heels when they started.

Reigns was a "heel" for like 6 months and then they forced him as the face of the company. That was way different from how The Rock developed in the NOD, then into the Corporate champ, THEN as a face. it was years later...

-- Yesterday it was noted that Erick Rowan suffered some sort of arm injury at SummerSlam and was unable to compete at the Smackdown house show in Atlantic City last night. The fear was that he may have torn his biceps and that is exactly what has happened, according to Dave Meltzer.

-- There is no official statement by WWE yet nor is there a timetable for how long he will be sidelined, but an injury like that will lead to an absence of multiple months.

-- The Bludgeon Brothers - Rowan and Luke Harper - are scheduled to defend their Tag Team titles tonight on Smackdown and it is almost a lock that they will drop the titles to the New Day with Harper looking at an extended time on the shelf.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Roman would've not gotten over as a heel. He just doesn't have the personality. Hiding behind Shield is all he can do.

That being said people are begging for a new rivalry and to end the part timers. At least Roman can be the guy who puts that guy over.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
the rock already said he would've never developed that kind of personality without being a heel.

same with Cena, him being a heel "first" helped him out.

if Vince would've kept him as Rocky Maivia, he would've just remained a mid carder and probably would've gotten released 5 years later. Cena already had a name for himself as a popular heel before turning face, and Cena was popular as a face for a while until it got stale.

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Reigns and the Shield were heels when they started.

Reigns was a "heel" for like 6 months and then they forced him as the face of the company. That was way different from how The Rock developed in the NOD, then into the Corporate champ, THEN as a face. it was years later...

Well it's a different time now. Back then Vince was fighting to save his company from WcW so he threw everything he had against them including pushing everyone. Now its just a matter of who is marketable with the general audience because the demographic has certainly changed over the years. Of course Rock wouldnt be Rock in today's WWE.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Bad news for the Bludgeon Brothers....

-- Yesterday it was noted that Erick Rowan suffered some sort of arm injury at SummerSlam and was unable to compete at the Smackdown house show in Atlantic City last night. The fear was that he may have torn his biceps and that is exactly what has happened, according to Dave Meltzer.

-- There is no official statement by WWE yet nor is there a timetable for how long he will be sidelined, but an injury like that will lead to an absence of multiple months.

-- The Bludgeon Brothers - Rowan and Luke Harper - are scheduled to defend their Tag Team titles tonight on Smackdown and it is almost a lock that they will drop the titles to the New Day with Harper looking at an extended time on the shelf.

Originally posted by TonyStarks:

I hated the Bludgeon Brothers. They went to hard on the spots. No reason to go full blown heavy on the powerbombs and get someone kilt.

Originally posted by BMoore56:

I kinda liked Harper as a singles guy