Wrestling Thread (WWE, AEW, etc)

Originally posted by pdc20:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
This was a great promo back and forth between 2 of the best on the mic's. Punk calls MJF a lesser famous Miz, MJF brings up Punk being 2nd best to everyone, like The King of Kings, or how he can't believe he's not preaching hustle, loyalty, & respect(Cena), Punk & MJF were great last night, the show was really good, the main event was good, the crowd was on fire, they threw Cody's belt back after he threw it into the crowd, lol. Malakai Black is such a star, PAC too.

The confrontation between Bryan Danielson & Hangman Adam Page was great, Thunder Rosa beating Jamie Hayter thanks to a missed superkick by Britt, Hayter looked pissed.

That promo was fantastic. Good reminder for all the guys that want CM Punk to turn heel that he´s just as much dangerous on the mic as a face. Let Punk be a face for a while, the crowd loves him.
MJF is unbelievable for such a young talent. Great promo, great wrestler, smart man, sky is the limit for him.
The main event was excellent. Death Triangle f**king rules. Pac is phenomenal.
I really liked the Thunder Rosa/Jamie Hayter match. The finish is clever because it serves three storylines at the same time. You have Thunder Rosa winning the match and advancing in the tournament. You have Thunder Rosa facing her arch-nemesis Britt Baker before their match at Revolution probably. And then they teased a little bit the Jamie Hayter´s turn on Britt.

I wouldn't turn Punk heel, keep him a babyface, I want a Punk/MJF match, this is where MJF beats Punk for Punk's first loss.

I love Death Triangle, I'm glad they didn't break them up, cause Penta, Fenix, & PAC together are awesome.

I also agree with Thunder Rosa vs Britt Baker at Revolution, and Rosa will win the belt IMO, cause Revolution isn't until February or March.

And yes MJF is so damn good, he makes you want to hate him, he knows how to get the crowd to boo him, insults everyone and their mom, he's great on the Mic, and in the ring, he's the future of not just AEW, but wrestling overall, I agree he, Jungle Boy, Sammy, & Darby are the 4 pillars of AEW, the foundation, I love all 4, I'm a huge Sammy Guevara fan, so glad he won the TNT title. Love Jurassice Express, and what they're doing with Christian Cage as a mentor type, who I also like, think he's done a great job.

I don't look at spoilers, so idk what happens on Rampage tonight, but can't wait for Cole/Fish vs I think Orange Cassidy & Wheeler Yuta. Also Britt vs Riho.

I saw a video, well, I didn't watch it, but after the show in Chicago, Punk came out dressed as Britt Baker lol. You can tell Punk is just happy to be back in pro wrestling, in a company that gives their fans what they want, gives their wrestlers creative freedom, and just being a true wrestling company, yes they have some entertainment and silly things, but, whatever, it's better than anything WWE has done in years.

Also Battle for the Belts in January on TNT? I think, or maybe it's TBS, it's cool how with the new TV deal, Dynamite will always be live Wednesday's on TBS, Rampage on TNT, then 4 special events on TNT/TBS, plus the 4 PPVs(Revolution, Double or Nothing, All Out, & Full Gear), which I think is smart to not go too overboard, and I can't believe how much they can fit into 2 hours or 1 hour, it's crazy, even with the 20 minute promo back and forth with Punk & MJF, they still had a lot in there.

So much good talent too, guys like Ricky Starks, Powerhouse Hobbs, Dante Martin, Wardlow, FTR, PnP, Ethan Page, Scorpio Sky, so much talent, and they get them all time, whether on TV or on their 2 YouTube shows(Dark & Elevation), which I think is a smart move for AEW to do, also at most you're working 3-4 days a week if both Dynamite & Rampage are live, plus Dark & Elevation tapings, & if there is a PPV.

Billy Gunn looks roided lol

Originally posted by BMoore56:
Billy Gunn looks roided lol

He's never stopped

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I wouldn't turn Punk heel, keep him a babyface, I want a Punk/MJF match, this is where MJF beats Punk for Punk's first loss.

Very possible BUT what if the plan calls for Punk to win and keep on winning and gets built up to have that first loss VS Hangman at Revolution?

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I wouldn't turn Punk heel, keep him a babyface, I want a Punk/MJF match, this is where MJF beats Punk for Punk's first loss.

Very possible BUT what if the plan calls for Punk to win and keep on winning and gets built up to have that first loss VS Hangman at Revolution?

I think MJF will beat CM Punk and I wouldn´t be surprised if they do the rematch at All Out 2022 for the AEW title with MJF as AEW champion.
That being said, having Hangman beat Omega and then both undefeated Danielson and Punk is actually pretty smart.
If Hangman is the guy and it seems that´s the case, why not? It´s the best way to put him over.
Regardless, Hangman/Danielson and MJF/Punk have been homerun programs so far.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I saw a video, well, I didn't watch it, but after the show in Chicago, Punk came out dressed as Britt Baker lol. You can tell Punk is just happy to be back in pro wrestling, in a company that gives their fans what they want, gives their wrestlers creative freedom, and just being a true wrestling company, yes they have some entertainment and silly things, but, whatever, it's better than anything WWE has done in years.

CM Punk is having a blast yes. He ´s in the perfect promotion for him. He can say whatever he wants on the mic. He can be a creative force backstage. He can work the matchs he wants. You give freedom to a wrestling genius like him and most of the time it will be great. When you look at the promo with Kingston, it was clearly structured to put over Eddie. Punk played the condescending face on purpose. If it was WWE, the promo would have been scripted to keep Punk strong. That wasn´t the case here. And because of that promo and Kingston and Punk´s work, the heat was nuclear for the match.
I don´t know when they will do the match with MJF but clearly the crowd will be hot for that. And imagine if MJF wins. Holy smoke.^^ Imagine if he wins clean!^^

Originally posted by pdc20:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I saw a video, well, I didn't watch it, but after the show in Chicago, Punk came out dressed as Britt Baker lol. You can tell Punk is just happy to be back in pro wrestling, in a company that gives their fans what they want, gives their wrestlers creative freedom, and just being a true wrestling company, yes they have some entertainment and silly things, but, whatever, it's better than anything WWE has done in years.

CM Punk is having a blast yes. He ´s in the perfect promotion for him. He can say whatever he wants on the mic. He can be a creative force backstage. He can work the matchs he wants. You give freedom to a wrestling genius like him and most of the time it will be great. When you look at the promo with Kingston, it was clearly structured to put over Eddie. Punk played the condescending face on purpose. If it was WWE, the promo would have been scripted to keep Punk strong. That wasn´t the case here. And because of that promo and Kingston and Punk´s work, the heat was nuclear for the match.
I don´t know when they will do the match with MJF but clearly the crowd will be hot for that. And imagine if MJF wins. Holy smoke.^^ Imagine if he wins clean!^^

These.
I also like how Punk is referencing his inspirations like Bret Hart vs 123 kid, Cenas' five knuckle shuffle set up, the Rocky /Mick sequence between Punk and Kingston. Such a feel good time when watching AEW tbh. WWE ..............idk wtf is going on there. I like the Tribal Chief storyline but that's it.

MJF was great on that promo. The hustle, loyalty, and respect line had me rolling. He definitely won that one.

"Mark Henry on MJF-Punk segment: "I'm sitting at the monitor. There's 30 wrestlers sitting around that area, and everybody is popping. If you're popping wrestlers, you've done something in your life. You won. I had to get up, walk out to the crowd to feel it because that's why people go to wrestling"

Originally posted by JustinMT:

Originally posted by BMoore56:

Billy Gunn looks roided lol

He's never stopped

Dude's 58 and looks amazing. You can take steroids all you want. His workout system is legit and he's in amazing shape

Damn he's two years older than taker. Taker looks like a grandpa compared to him

Originally posted by jrg:
"Mark Henry on MJF-Punk segment: "I'm sitting at the monitor. There's 30 wrestlers sitting around that area, and everybody is popping. If you're popping wrestlers, you've done something in your life. You won. I had to get up, walk out to the crowd to feel it because that's why people go to wrestling"

It was a great promo for sure, glad to see the guys in the back popping, tells me AEW is definitely a company that is fun to work for, unlike WWE where you're walking on eggshells every time Vince comes by, you never know if you're getting future endeavored.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
MJF was great on that promo. The hustle, loyalty, and respect line had me rolling. He definitely won that one.

I was OMG when he did that, and I love Punk calling MJF a lesser famous Miz lol. Then MJF with the King of Kings line, then Punk telling MJF to wait for TK to have a daughter so he can marry her, shot at HHH.

Originally posted by pdc20:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I saw a video, well, I didn't watch it, but after the show in Chicago, Punk came out dressed as Britt Baker lol. You can tell Punk is just happy to be back in pro wrestling, in a company that gives their fans what they want, gives their wrestlers creative freedom, and just being a true wrestling company, yes they have some entertainment and silly things, but, whatever, it's better than anything WWE has done in years.

CM Punk is having a blast yes. He ´s in the perfect promotion for him. He can say whatever he wants on the mic. He can be a creative force backstage. He can work the matchs he wants. You give freedom to a wrestling genius like him and most of the time it will be great. When you look at the promo with Kingston, it was clearly structured to put over Eddie. Punk played the condescending face on purpose. If it was WWE, the promo would have been scripted to keep Punk strong. That wasn´t the case here. And because of that promo and Kingston and Punk´s work, the heat was nuclear for the match.
I don´t know when they will do the match with MJF but clearly the crowd will be hot for that. And imagine if MJF wins. Holy smoke.^^ Imagine if he wins clean!^^

I wonder when they'll do Hangman vs Danielson, I'm thinking maybe at Battle of the Belts(I think that's the name) on Jan 8th, Saturday night special, they may do Hangman/Danielson for AEW Title, it would be big for either Hangman or MJF to end Punk's win streak.

I guess they do Hangman/Danielson at Winter is Coming. Battle of the belts feels weird for me since it´s a one hour show and supposedly all titles will be defended. Hangman/Bryan should be at least a 20 minutes match. It´s better to do it on Winter is Coming. Overall, I don´t really like Battle of the Belts as an one hour show special. It should be two hours at least or just do another PPV. Punk/MJF I could see it on the first Dynamite on TBS and I think MJF will win in order to really tell everyone that 2022 will be the year of MJF.
It´s really a clever booking to have Hangman beat Danielson and MJF, Punk since Hangman and MJF will probably have a big feud in 2022. They also represent the future of the promotion. Besides, I think CM Punk losing against MJF is the best decision for both characters. MJF gets a giant rub and CM Punk has to deal with the defeat and get back to his craft.
By the way Hangman last eliminated MJF in the casino battle royale at Double or Nothing 2019 and MJF beat Hangman to win the Diamond ring a few months later. Talk about long term storytelling.

Finally saw/glanced at Raw for the first time in weeks.

Liv Morgan looks She's always been hot but now she's feeling it and getting pushed.


The rest is just midcard guys trying to pull off the same old matches as main event stuff. Big E, Lashley, Sami Zayn, all those dudes are meh to me. Just MHO.
OH and this weird old man vince segment wtf

A LOT to unravel here.
HBK wouldn't be hbk if it wasn't for ....cocaine?
Hbk coming down from coke was suicidal.
HHH was basically Shawns' CNA / orderly during his blackouts.